PC with an EPIC Epiphany! Our worries are over!

[Michael K.]

I highly doubt the Safeties played way off the ball and they had a light box, and again this year an OC couldn’t figure it out.

[Michael K.]

Again, the exact same problem as last year. Schotty meets with Pete after the season and they mutually decide to part ways? Then Pete takes heat and comes out and says it wasn’t mutual. My take? Schotty told him he isn’t coaching under those situations. I am sorry, no NFL coach would look at a two deep Safety look and continue to chuck it deep unless they are a fucking moron. So, we have either had two Moron OCs in a row, or the guy who is still here is a moron.

Every other team spreads it out, goes multiple, uses motion, and uses this for both the run and pass. Not us. We pack it tight to run and spread it out to pass. But mix it up? Hell no. When one guy is STILL here, STILL in charge, and three guys get fired and the fourth guy does the same thing? What is more likely?

It’s like a guy owning a business and firing three straight GMs, but requiring the new one to do it exactly the same.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Carroll isn't the only common denominator. Wilson isn't checking out of low percentage pass plays and needs to start taking heat for that.

[Donn Beach]

I highly doubt the Safeties played way off the ball and they had a light box, and again this year an OC couldn’t figure it out.

you don't believe in NFL Next Gen stats?...hey, its Amazon lol

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[Donn Beach]

Carroll isn't the only common denominator. Wilson isn't checking out of low percentage pass plays and needs to start taking heat for that.

what are you basing that on exactly?...his 39.5 passer rating?

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Carroll isn't the only common denominator. Wilson isn't checking out of low percentage pass plays and needs to start taking heat for that.

what are you basing that on exactly?...his 39.5 passer rating?

Lots of passes + lots of incompletions and interceptions + defense playing a quasi-prevent most of the game = ?

[douche]

Maybe PC forgot to tell Shane at the beginning the season that they need to run the ball more and just remembered on Monday. Will be interesting to see what happens Sunday.

its not about needing to run the ball more, its the offense not responding to what the defense is willing to give them. I don't know enough about football to understand it but it what seems to be implied. Sure Pete is responsible for everything but in terms of the actual flow of the offense, if there was one thing i would think the OC was there for it was to handle that, the progression of plays called in response to the sort of defense the opposition is in. I really no idea what it could be, or if its actually the issue. But it would seem to me something more between RW and Waldron perhaps.

But according to PC, it's all about running the ball more.

I agree with your comment about the offense. If RW can't read a defense (or isn't allowed to change the play at the line of scrimmage), that's a problem.

[Michael K.]

I highly doubt the Safeties played way off the ball and they had a light box, and again this year an OC couldn’t figure it out.

you don't believe in NFL Next Gen stats?...hey, its Amazon lol

https://aws.amazon.com/nfl/

I believe the defense played a light box and that the safeties were deep. What I don't believe is that it took Waldron until after the game to figure it out, and I don't believe that the one common denominator from last year wasn't involved. Funny, Pete is here, Schotty is not, and we are still not able to figure out how to attack a deep safety look. Yep, must be the OC again. Give me a fucking break.

This morning Brock and Salk were even blaming the GM for player evaluations. NO ONE IS ABOVE THE VP OF FOOTBALL OPS. Guess who that is?

[Michael K.]

Carroll isn't the only common denominator. Wilson isn't checking out of low percentage pass plays and needs to start taking heat for that.

Good point. But, based on what happened last year? Who do you think is more likely to be the reason they aren't calling plays that attack a light box and deep safety? If there is no game plan to attack this, why is that not on the person responsible for game planning? Sorry, this is a Pete Carroll issue, which is why no matter who the OC is? We have this issue.

Take away Lynch and the read option? This offense has been pedestrian, besides the end of the year run when we decided to go with a quick passing attack. Do you really believe that knowing all we know, it was Bevell that decided he didn't 'want to break records anymore and switch back to what didn't work?

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Right now, my sense of who is most responsible for the plays that are being executed on the field is shifting toward RW and is at least equal to the blame i put on PC. What is going to happen if Wilson decided to call his own game? Is he going to be benched? Is Carroll going to call him out in the media? Probably not, so if RW is not running things in accordance with Carroll's philosophies over an extended period, i am forced to assume that is largely on him.

I realize you would probably argue Carroll's offensive philosophy is garbage, but that isn't relevant. Wilson didn't adhere to it vs Green Bay.