trade deadline looming France, Lewis, and Haniger returning

[Donn Beach]

Even if you were to have hit the jack pot on a DH you still have a losing record

[bpj]

Even if you were to have hit the jack pot on a DH you still have a losing record

Disagree, WAR be damned.

Another steady bat in the lineup could have won us several games.

You can't honestly believe that if we had Evan White at 1B instead of Ty France we'd only have lost 3 more games.

Same goes for a guy like Schwarber (.826 OPS) over Kelenic (.509) or Toro (.574) or Torrens (.520) at DH every day.

[D-train]

Even if you were to have hit the jack pot on a DH you still have a losing record

Josh Bell 2.4 WAR
Our DH's -0.4 WAR

Net 2.8 WAR

Current record. 40-42
Record with Bell at DH 43-39. 1 game out of the WC.

[bpj]

Even if you were to have hit the jack pot on a DH you still have a losing record

Josh Bell 2.4 WAR
Our DH's -0.4 WAR

Net 2.8 WAR

Current record. 40-42
Record with Bell at DH 43-39. 1 game out of the WC.

Add a #2SP in there over the Brash/Kirby starts and we're likely sitting in the playoff picture right now.

But noooooo.

[ice99]

Even if you were to have hit the jack pot on a DH you still have a losing record

Josh Bell 2.4 WAR
Our DH's -0.4 WAR

Net 2.8 WAR

Current record. 40-42
Record with Bell at DH 43-39. 1 game out of the WC.

Add a #2SP in there over the Brash/Kirby starts and we're likely sitting in the playoff picture right now.

But noooooo.

Rodon 2.8 WAR, Kirby 0.2 WAR.

[bpj]

Josh Bell 2.4 WAR
Our DH's -0.4 WAR

Net 2.8 WAR

Current record. 40-42
Record with Bell at DH 43-39. 1 game out of the WC.

Add a #2SP in there over the Brash/Kirby starts and we're likely sitting in the playoff picture right now.

But noooooo.

Rodon 2.8 WAR, Kirby 0.2 WAR.

+ Brash (or Marco) at -0.2

[seattlefan-daBronx]

If this season were a game of poker the Mariners called a couple bets, but they sure didn't push all in.

They could have done way, way more. Instead they called it good with a rookie in the #5 SP spot who has since been made a reliever, and a backup catcher as the DH leaving us way light on depth.

Was obvious they could have done more = they didn't try hard enough to make the playoffs.

I am just fine with that #5 Brash he has great stuff he just can't keep it in the zone. But Kirby can and he is right at a 100 ERA+ after he got lit up 2 starts ago and added a run to his ERA.

The truth is I don't see a lot of holes if they are relatively healthy. (Spare an elite left-handed BP guy)

And that's the problem. This team keeps the guys who are "good enough", and fails to add the guys that would make us better.

ERA+
Ray: 102
Gilbert: 138
Flexen: 92
Kirby: 99
Marco: 114

Meanwhile:
Rodon: 145

Letting Kirby and Flexen (and Marco) in the rotation blocks a better pitcher from being in it. It's not rocket science.

Wow. I did not realize Rodon was that much better. Incredible.

[Juliooooo]

That's just semantics. They said they were interesting in/going after/whatever a TOR and once they understood the price they bailed.

They didn't finish the job with the rotation, the pen and the lineup and hoped for the best. One of the three worked out and here we are.

Is not semantics. Saying that he said he was going to add is just plain not true. They said they were going to look into it. They never said they were going to. Disagree with what they did, fine, but they didn't ever say they were for sure going to add someone.

[bpj]

Potato, potatoe. Or whatever.

It's semantics. Of course he didn't guarantee it. He said they'd like to add a #2SP, they saw the cost, they changed their mind.

[Donn Beach]

When you say cost it was what had to be given up in trade, it wasn't about signing a free agent. The comment was made at the end of the off season