trade deadline looming France, Lewis, and Haniger returning
- Donn Beach
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Re: trade deadline looming France, Lewis, and Haniger returning
Even if you were to have hit the jack pot on a DH you still have a losing record
Re: trade deadline looming France, Lewis, and Haniger returning
Disagree, WAR be damned.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:14 pmEven if you were to have hit the jack pot on a DH you still have a losing record
Another steady bat in the lineup could have won us several games.
You can't honestly believe that if we had Evan White at 1B instead of Ty France we'd only have lost 3 more games.
Same goes for a guy like Schwarber (.826 OPS) over Kelenic (.509) or Toro (.574) or Torrens (.520) at DH every day.
Re: trade deadline looming France, Lewis, and Haniger returning
Josh Bell 2.4 WARDonn Beach wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:14 pmEven if you were to have hit the jack pot on a DH you still have a losing record
Our DH's -0.4 WAR
Net 2.8 WAR
Current record. 40-42
Record with Bell at DH 43-39. 1 game out of the WC.
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Re: trade deadline looming France, Lewis, and Haniger returning
Add a #2SP in there over the Brash/Kirby starts and we're likely sitting in the playoff picture right now.D-train wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:48 pmJosh Bell 2.4 WARDonn Beach wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:14 pmEven if you were to have hit the jack pot on a DH you still have a losing record
Our DH's -0.4 WAR
Net 2.8 WAR
Current record. 40-42
Record with Bell at DH 43-39. 1 game out of the WC.
But noooooo.
Re: trade deadline looming France, Lewis, and Haniger returning
Rodon 2.8 WAR, Kirby 0.2 WAR.bpj wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:50 pmAdd a #2SP in there over the Brash/Kirby starts and we're likely sitting in the playoff picture right now.D-train wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:48 pmJosh Bell 2.4 WARDonn Beach wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:14 pmEven if you were to have hit the jack pot on a DH you still have a losing record
Our DH's -0.4 WAR
Net 2.8 WAR
Current record. 40-42
Record with Bell at DH 43-39. 1 game out of the WC.
But noooooo.
Re: trade deadline looming France, Lewis, and Haniger returning
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Re: trade deadline looming France, Lewis, and Haniger returning
Wow. I did not realize Rodon was that much better. Incredible.bpj wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:05 pmAnd that's the problem. This team keeps the guys who are "good enough", and fails to add the guys that would make us better.Pharmabro wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 2:35 amI am just fine with that #5 Brash he has great stuff he just can't keep it in the zone. But Kirby can and he is right at a 100 ERA+ after he got lit up 2 starts ago and added a run to his ERA.bpj wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 1:18 amIf this season were a game of poker the Mariners called a couple bets, but they sure didn't push all in.
They could have done way, way more. Instead they called it good with a rookie in the #5 SP spot who has since been made a reliever, and a backup catcher as the DH leaving us way light on depth.
Was obvious they could have done more = they didn't try hard enough to make the playoffs.
The truth is I don't see a lot of holes if they are relatively healthy. (Spare an elite left-handed BP guy)
ERA+
Ray: 102
Gilbert: 138
Flexen: 92
Kirby: 99
Marco: 114
Meanwhile:
Rodon: 145
Letting Kirby and Flexen (and Marco) in the rotation blocks a better pitcher from being in it. It's not rocket science.
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Re: trade deadline looming France, Lewis, and Haniger returning
Is not semantics. Saying that he said he was going to add is just plain not true. They said they were going to look into it. They never said they were going to. Disagree with what they did, fine, but they didn't ever say they were for sure going to add someone.D-train wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 3:33 pm
That's just semantics. They said they were interesting in/going after/whatever a TOR and once they understood the price they bailed.
They didn't finish the job with the rotation, the pen and the lineup and hoped for the best. One of the three worked out and here we are.
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Re: trade deadline looming France, Lewis, and Haniger returning
Potato, potatoe. Or whatever.
It's semantics. Of course he didn't guarantee it. He said they'd like to add a #2SP, they saw the cost, they changed their mind.
It's semantics. Of course he didn't guarantee it. He said they'd like to add a #2SP, they saw the cost, they changed their mind.
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Re: trade deadline looming France, Lewis, and Haniger returning
When you say cost it was what had to be given up in trade, it wasn't about signing a free agent. The comment was made at the end of the off season