Mariners minors. Thread for interesting news and stats.

[Juliooooo]

Already 19 years old, I hope they throw Young straight into modesto. Arroyo up to A+ and Marte to AA.

[D-train]

Already 19 years old, I hope they throw Young straight into modesto. Arroyo up to A+ and Marte to AA.

Have they ever started a HS kid at Modesto. Harry started in the ACL but I guess he didn't quite hit .400 in HS.

Arroyo ended the 1st half strong at .318/.903. Will be interesting who gets promoted.

[Juliooooo]

Already 19 years old, I hope they throw Young straight into modesto. Arroyo up to A+ and Marte to AA.

Have they ever started a HS kid at Modesto. Harry started in the ACL but I guess he didn't quite hit .400 in HS.

Arroyo ended the 1st half strong at .318/.903. Will be interesting who gets promoted.

He's also a C and more of a project. Young should be able to move faster.

[D-train]

Already 19 years old, I hope they throw Young straight into modesto. Arroyo up to A+ and Marte to AA.

Have they ever started a HS kid at Modesto. Harry started in the ACL but I guess he didn't quite hit .400 in HS.

Arroyo ended the 1st half strong at .318/.903. Will be interesting who gets promoted.

He's also a C and more of a project. Young should be able to move faster.

Yeah I missed that he is 19. Modesto seems likely.

[Sexymarinersfan]

He's never gonna live this down lol

[ice99]

He's never gonna live this down lol

He's going to get traded to the Royals. j/k

[GL_Storm]

Have they ever started a HS kid at Modesto. Harry started in the ACL but I guess he didn't quite hit .400 in HS.

Arroyo ended the 1st half strong at .318/.903. Will be interesting who gets promoted.

He's also a C and more of a project. Young should be able to move faster.

Yeah I missed that he is 19. Modesto seems likely.

I would guess they send him to the complex first. I think they have an orientation process and then they probably want the coaches there to take a look at what he can do. If all goes well though, I would guess they send him to Modesto towards the end of the season to see what he can do there against more advanced pitching.

[D-train]

He's also a C and more of a project. Young should be able to move faster.

Yeah I missed that he is 19. Modesto seems likely.

I would guess they send him to the complex first. I think they have an orientation process and then they probably want the coaches there to take a look at what he can do. If all goes well though, I would guess they send him to Modesto towards the end of the season to see what he can do there against more advanced pitching.

Good point. More to it than baseball.

[GL_Storm]

A few interesting bits from a Baseball America podcast I just finished listening to. The overall subject was their midseason top 100 update.

1) Evaluators right now aren't too enthusiastic about the top players on the Top 100 list. This doesn't come just from BA but I've heard the same from Baseball Prospectus, which did their mid-season update recently as well. It seems to be sort of a cyclic thing, and this is just the down part of the cycle where a lot of the top guys have graduated off the list and the real up and coming guys are still too low in the minors.

2) The quality of pitching in Single-A (i.e. low-A) is pretty terrible right now across all three leagues. It's very uncommon to find pitchers at this level with 3 or even 2 pitches that they have any sort of command over, other than soft-tossing control artists. So it's sort of a binary situation where the hitter is facing some guy with great stuff but no command or has below average pitch quality with much better command. This is directly related to the elimination of the short-season class A level, which in previous years would be used as an additional level to help with that pitch development.

For us, I think this has some relevance in terms of tempering our enthusiasm for Harry Ford and Edwin Arroyo. Not that we shouldn't be happy about how well they're doing, but maybe just keep in mind that the jump to the next level may be the hard one. It also makes me wonder if some of the up and comers like Gonzalez, Montes, and the other Arroyo will be wasting their time at Modesto. Just food for thought.

3) Kyle Glaser gave a Noelvi update, saying that he seems to have turned it around, which bears with our own observations here. He also said that his criticism earlier in the year came at least in part from Mariners insiders. He then cited an issue with Noelvi as sort of going through stages where he's unprepared and not really ready to play, which then shows in his performance, and then something clicks or whatever and he gets his shit together and things start going well again and he'll have a good month or two. This makes me wonder about the coaching aspect of the minor leagues, though of course the player has responsibility as well. But I wonder if playing at AA, with players that have made it to that level, would help with driving in the importance of preparation for each game.

[D-train]

A few interesting bits from a Baseball America podcast I just finished listening to. The overall subject was their midseason top 100 update.

1) Evaluators right now aren't too enthusiastic about the top players on the Top 100 list. This doesn't come just from BA but I've heard the same from Baseball Prospectus, which did their mid-season update recently as well. It seems to be sort of a cyclic thing, and this is just the down part of the cycle where a lot of the top guys have graduated off the list and the real up and coming guys are still too low in the minors.

2) The quality of pitching in Single-A (i.e. low-A) is pretty terrible right now across all three leagues. It's very uncommon to find pitchers at this level with 3 or even 2 pitches that they have any sort of command over, other than soft-tossing control artists. So it's sort of a binary situation where the hitter is facing some guy with great stuff but no command or has below average pitch quality with much better command. This is directly related to the elimination of the short-season class A level, which in previous years would be used as an additional level to help with that pitch development.

For us, I think this has some relevance in terms of tempering our enthusiasm for Harry Ford and Edwin Arroyo. Not that we shouldn't be happy about how well they're doing, but maybe just keep in mind that the jump to the next level may be the hard one. It also makes me wonder if some of the up and comers like Gonzalez, Montes, and the other Arroyo will be wasting their time at Modesto. Just food for thought.

3) Kyle Glaser gave a Noelvi update, saying that he seems to have turned it around, which bears with our own observations here. He also said that his criticism earlier in the year came at least in part from Mariners insiders. He then cited an issue with Noelvi as sort of going through stages where he's unprepared and not really ready to play, which then shows in his performance, and then something clicks or whatever and he gets his shit together and things start going well again and he'll have a good month or two. This makes me wonder about the coaching aspect of the minor leagues, though of course the player has responsibility as well. But I wonder if playing at AA, with players that have made it to that level, would help with driving in the importance of preparation for each game.

Great stuff Gabe, Thanks!!