Game Thread: ALDS Game 1

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Re: Game Thread: ALDS Game 1

Post by D-train » Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:13 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:03 pm
bpj wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:00 pm

Couldn't really be worse than Kelenic could they... :lol:
Especially not at the plate! LOL
Marco: .217 with a .565 OPS

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... ma02.shtml

JK in 2022: .141 with .534 OPS...

Even Flexen has a .167 career BA!!!! :lol:
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Re: Game Thread: ALDS Game 1

Post by D-train » Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:17 pm

bpj wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:05 pm
Hard to believe that JP Crawford had his best season in 2022 according to wRC+.

When I look at JP's numbers I wonder why he was even in MLB before he was 25 or 26 years old.

Had to maximize the return on his defense while he was young I guess. :roll:

Almost all of JP's offensive value came from limiting K's and drawing more walks.

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jp-cr ... osition=SS
It was walks, hitting at T Mobile and the fact that hitting in general declined this season. Ks aren't included though.
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Re: Game Thread: ALDS Game 1

Post by D-train » Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:19 pm

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Re: Game Thread: ALDS Game 1

Post by bpj » Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:23 pm

D-train wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:17 pm
bpj wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:05 pm
Hard to believe that JP Crawford had his best season in 2022 according to wRC+.

When I look at JP's numbers I wonder why he was even in MLB before he was 25 or 26 years old.

Had to maximize the return on his defense while he was young I guess. :roll:

Almost all of JP's offensive value came from limiting K's and drawing more walks.

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jp-cr ... osition=SS
It was walks, hitting at T Mobile and the fact that hitting in general declined this season. Ks aren't included though.
What I'm getting at is he added value to himself by striking out 13% instead of 16% while walking 11% instead of 8% over his previous season.

It will be interesting to see how far down the cumulative offensive numbers are.

Is it the concensus that it's the new balls they're using that led to the lack of offense league-wide?

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Re: Game Thread: ALDS Game 1

Post by ice99 » Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:33 pm

bpj wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:05 pm
Hard to believe that JP Crawford had his best season in 2022 according to wRC+.

When I look at JP's numbers I wonder why he was even in MLB before he was 25 or 26 years old.

Had to maximize the return on his defense while he was young I guess. :roll:

Almost all of JP's offensive value came from limiting K's and drawing more walks.

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jp-cr ... osition=SS
It's the ball. Carlos Santana with his 2022 OPS including his time at KC is at .692, which is good for a 102 wRC+.
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Re: Game Thread: ALDS Game 1

Post by D-train » Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:36 pm

bpj wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:23 pm
D-train wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:17 pm
bpj wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:05 pm
Hard to believe that JP Crawford had his best season in 2022 according to wRC+.

When I look at JP's numbers I wonder why he was even in MLB before he was 25 or 26 years old.

Had to maximize the return on his defense while he was young I guess. :roll:

Almost all of JP's offensive value came from limiting K's and drawing more walks.

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jp-cr ... osition=SS
It was walks, hitting at T Mobile and the fact that hitting in general declined this season. Ks aren't included though.
What I'm getting at is he added value to himself by striking out 13% instead of 16% while walking 11% instead of 8% over his previous season.

It will be interesting to see how far down the cumulative offensive numbers are.

Is it the concensus that it's the new balls they're using that led to the lack of offense league-wide?
Just saying that Ks aren't any different than any other type of out when calculating wRC+ or WAR. If he has the same slash line it does matter if he had a 13% K rate or a 31% K rate, he would have the same wRC+.
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Re: Game Thread: ALDS Game 1

Post by Juliooooo » Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:50 pm

D-train wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:13 pm
Michael K. wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:03 pm
bpj wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:00 pm

Couldn't really be worse than Kelenic could they... :lol:
Especially not at the plate! LOL
Marco: .217 with a .565 OPS

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... ma02.shtml

JK in 2022: .141 with .534 OPS...

Even Flexen has a .167 career BA!!!! :lol:
Marco would also probably be a pretty good fielder, although you may have to stash him in LF with his arm, LOL.
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Re: Game Thread: ALDS Game 1

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:53 pm

D-train wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 1:29 pm
M's twitter complaining about "Price Gouging" for tickets this weekend. LOL

I am sure you generous guys would like to donate to this lovely young lady's cause. lol
I had a chance to snag tickets for $45 a piece down here in Houston today.

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Re: Game Thread: ALDS Game 1

Post by Juliooooo » Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:57 pm

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:53 pm

I had a chance to snag tickets for $45 a piece down here in Houston today.
Yeah, I think that Houston fans are saving up for the ALCS and maybe some night games next week, maybe for a game 5 on Monday. Lets hope they have to use that money elsewhere.

It might be just as cheap to fly to Houston, pay for 2 games and a hotel and fly back as it is to go to 2 games in Seattle.
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Re: Game Thread: ALDS Game 1

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Tue Oct 11, 2022 7:04 pm

Juliooooo wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:57 pm
Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 6:53 pm

I had a chance to snag tickets for $45 a piece down here in Houston today.
Yeah, I think that Houston fans are saving up for the ALCS and maybe some night games next week, maybe for a game 5 on Monday. Lets hope they have to use that money elsewhere.

It might be just as cheap to fly to Houston, pay for 2 games and a hotel and fly back as it is to go to 2 games in Seattle.
That's kinda what I've been thinking too. They're saving up for the World Series.

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