Bauer: Would it be a move you would make?

[bpj]

See how the lawsuits play out, that she has found lawyers to file her suit, there must be something there. How about we let it get decided in court

Sure, with the understanding that he wasn't charged with anything. So as long as people assume his innocence instead of his guilt, as our system is built on, there's no problem.

Many people didn't even read all the texts and it shows. They didn't pay attention that she claimed to have a skull fracture, but her doctor said she did not. She even took a video the next morning in bed with Bauer where she 's perfectly fine.

Seems to be the same people that believe what the TV news tells them about politics that think Bauers is guilty of anything more than rough, consensual sex. Correct me if I'm wrong on that.

Okay, but this isn't about the criminal justice system. He was suspended for being in violatioUn of MLBs DV policy. It's really a different set of standards. I don't believe there is anything in it allowing for an agreement to hit a domestic partner. He hit her, that put him in violation. So yeah, he could guilty of no more than having some rough sex with a consenting partner and still be subject to suspension. Terms of the civil case, all you have to do is look at the Simpson case to see how little relevance there is between civil and criminal law. The guy was found innocent in a criminal court but still got reamed for killing her in a civil court

What evidence do you have that he hit her?

I'm old enough to remember Amber Heard accusing Johnny Depp of abusing her too.

Another good example why innocent until proven guilty is a thing.

[Donn Beach]

from the statement his lawyers released, he as admitted to the rough sex

Mr. Bauer had a brief and wholly consensual sexual relationship initiated by [the alleged victim] beginning in April 2021. We have messages that show [the alleged victim] repeatedly asking for “rough” sexual encounters involving requests to be “choked out” and slapped in the face. In both of their encounters, [the alleged victim] drove from San Diego to Mr. Bauer’s residence in Pasadena, Calif. where she went on to dictate what she wanted from him sexually and he did what was asked

[bpj]

He struck her, hit her might give the impression of a closed fist, and he choked her.

From the statement his lawyers released, he as admitted to the rough sex

Mr. Bauer had a brief and wholly consensual sexual relationship initiated by [the alleged victim] beginning in April 2021. We have messages that show [the alleged victim] repeatedly asking for “rough” sexual encounters involving requests to be “choked out” and slapped in the face. In both of their encounters, [the alleged victim] drove from San Diego to Mr. Bauer’s residence in Pasadena, Calif. where she went on to dictate what she wanted from him sexually and he did what was asked

Exactly, he did what she wanted. After that is where it becomes either sexual assault or exaggerated accusations. And we now know that no criminal charges were filed.

What motive could a woman po$$ibly have to make fal$e accu$ation$ though??

Here is what she had to say to her friend before she accused him-

Messages sent by the woman - identified by her lawyers as Ms Hill - show that she boasted that she “can get in his head”.

The friend's reply to that message is dated after Ms Hill and Bauer spent the night together for the first time.

She joked that she would “get in his head and find pine tar,” referring to a recent rule change allowing baseball umpires to check the hats of pitchers like Bauer for prohibited substances like pine tar that give them greater control over the ball. She also sent a “money” emoji.

It was during this first encounter that the woman later alleged Bauer used her hair to knock her unconscious before anally raping her.

But the texts also contain messages from Hill telling her friend that she was “joking” in the text messages “about his amount of money and how I wanted to be a baseball wife.”

Hill also appears to reference a potential previous relationship with San Diego Padres star Fernando Tatis, Jr. in the messages to the friend.

Before meeting Bauer she tells the friend that she’s “going to his house” that week and “already [has] her hooks in”, noting “you know how I roll”.

Bauer has not been charged or arrested.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15584876/ ... ser-texts/

[harmony]

They most likely won't, too concerned about their image, not to mention the soy bloggers are already outraged at just the thought of signing Bauers, and they would cause a problem for Jerry and ownership.

Most teams will stay away, and he's already getting paid by the Dodgers, so he's most likely in line for a micro-contract.

He'll be lucky to get 1/$3M imo. May even be a league minimum contract.

Is anyone positive that whatever the team that signs him pays doesn't just come out of what the Dodgers would have owed him?

It may be that because he'll be fully released he can sign a second contract and fully collect, but I remember a few previous cases where the team that signed the player just paid league minimum and that amount just came off of what the team that released him owed.

You mean the "soy bloggers" that actually have a moral compass? Those soy bloggers?

Yes, those ones. Unfortunately their compass is as broken as yours is.

They're as uninformed as you admit you are, but they can't stop virtue signaling any opportunity they get to gain soft brained followers.

Innocent until proven guilty is an important part of a moral compass in my opinion. If you believe every rumor about someone without knowing the details and then climb on your soapbox, it doesn't make you look virtuous. It makes you look like a foolish puppet following what everyone else is saying.

No argument with that.

Did you witness the interaction between Trevor Bauer and the woman?

Bauer, the woman and their attorneys in the civil cases (plural) will gather their evidence and likely reach a resolution short of trial. If Bauer's suit and the woman's countersuit go to trial the parties will present their competing evidence and live with the verdicts.

A courtroom is a better venue than a baseball forum to reach those decisions.

[Donn Beach]

He struck her, hit her might give the impression of a closed fist, and he choked her.

From the statement his lawyers released, he as admitted to the rough sex

Mr. Bauer had a brief and wholly consensual sexual relationship initiated by [the alleged victim] beginning in April 2021. We have messages that show [the alleged victim] repeatedly asking for “rough” sexual encounters involving requests to be “choked out” and slapped in the face. In both of their encounters, [the alleged victim] drove from San Diego to Mr. Bauer’s residence in Pasadena, Calif. where she went on to dictate what she wanted from him sexually and he did what was asked

Exactly, he did what she wanted. After that is where it becomes either sexual assault or exaggerated accusations. And we now know that no criminal charges were filed.

What motive could a woman po$$ibly have to make fal$e accu$ation$ though??

Here is what she had to say to her friend before she accused him-

Messages sent by the woman - identified by her lawyers as Ms Hill - show that she boasted that she “can get in his head”.

The friend's reply to that message is dated after Ms Hill and Bauer spent the night together for the first time.

She joked that she would “get in his head and find pine tar,” referring to a recent rule change allowing baseball umpires to check the hats of pitchers like Bauer for prohibited substances like pine tar that give them greater control over the ball. She also sent a “money” emoji.

It was during this first encounter that the woman later alleged Bauer used her hair to knock her unconscious before anally raping her.

But the texts also contain messages from Hill telling her friend that she was “joking” in the text messages “about his amount of money and how I wanted to be a baseball wife.”

Hill also appears to reference a potential previous relationship with San Diego Padres star Fernando Tatis, Jr. in the messages to the friend.

Before meeting Bauer she tells the friend that she’s “going to his house” that week and “already [has] her hooks in”, noting “you know how I roll”.

Bauer has not been charged or arrested.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15584876/ ... ser-texts/

But that was my point, in terms of MLBs DV policy I don't believe having consent to commit a DV act would protect you from violating policy.

But in any event, here is Bauer admitting to hitting her without consent.

. A day later, police from Pasadena questioned her. She drove to Pasadena on May 21, at the police's behest, to call Bauer and get him to admit to what she said he did while being recorded. She asked him what he did while she was unconscious, the order said, and he admitted to punching her repeatedly in the buttocks. When she said, "I didn't ask to be punched" and "this was not a free for all," Bauer "attempted to change the subject."

[bpj]

You mean the "soy bloggers" that actually have a moral compass? Those soy bloggers?

Yes, those ones. Unfortunately their compass is as broken as yours is.

They're as uninformed as you admit you are, but they can't stop virtue signaling any opportunity they get to gain soft brained followers.

Innocent until proven guilty is an important part of a moral compass in my opinion. If you believe every rumor about someone without knowing the details and then climb on your soapbox, it doesn't make you look virtuous. It makes you look like a foolish puppet following what everyone else is saying.

No argument with that.

Did you witness the interaction between Trevor Bauer and the woman?

Bauer, the woman and their attorneys in the civil cases (plural) will gather their evidence and likely reach a resolution short of trial. If Bauer's suit and the woman's countersuit go to trial the parties will present their competing evidence and live with the verdicts.

A courtroom is a better venue than a baseball forum to reach those decisions.

No of course I didn't.

Innocent until proven guilty, and he didn't even get charged.

Funny to watch people shift the goalposts to a civil court decision once no criminal charges were filed.

Johnny Depp showed how that can go also. Yet people still rushing to "Guilty until proven innocent".

Preach all you want about the courtroom being the better venue, but tell it to the people assuming guilt. This didn't even reach the courtroom. That's how much merit the case had.

[bpj]

He struck her, hit her might give the impression of a closed fist, and he choked her.

From the statement his lawyers released, he as admitted to the rough sex

Exactly, he did what she wanted. After that is where it becomes either sexual assault or exaggerated accusations. And we now know that no criminal charges were filed.

What motive could a woman po$$ibly have to make fal$e accu$ation$ though??

Here is what she had to say to her friend before she accused him-

Messages sent by the woman - identified by her lawyers as Ms Hill - show that she boasted that she “can get in his head”.

The friend's reply to that message is dated after Ms Hill and Bauer spent the night together for the first time.

She joked that she would “get in his head and find pine tar,” referring to a recent rule change allowing baseball umpires to check the hats of pitchers like Bauer for prohibited substances like pine tar that give them greater control over the ball. She also sent a “money” emoji.

It was during this first encounter that the woman later alleged Bauer used her hair to knock her unconscious before anally raping her.

But the texts also contain messages from Hill telling her friend that she was “joking” in the text messages “about his amount of money and how I wanted to be a baseball wife.”

Hill also appears to reference a potential previous relationship with San Diego Padres star Fernando Tatis, Jr. in the messages to the friend.

Before meeting Bauer she tells the friend that she’s “going to his house” that week and “already [has] her hooks in”, noting “you know how I roll”.

Bauer has not been charged or arrested.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15584876/ ... ser-texts/

But that was my point, in terms of MLBs DV policy I don't believe having consent to commit a DV act would protect you from violating policy.

But in any event, here is Bauer admitting to hitting her without consent.

. A day later, police from Pasadena questioned her. She drove to Pasadena on May 21, at the police's behest, to call Bauer and get him to admit to what she said he did while being recorded. She asked him what he did while she was unconscious, the order said, and he admitted to punching her repeatedly in the buttocks. When she said, "I didn't ask to be punched" and "this was not a free for all," Bauer "attempted to change the subject."

Yeah, he hit dat ass alright. Just like she wanted.

Here's Bauers followup from the quote you posted-

In Bauer's statement, he denied assaulting the woman, whose name ABC7 is withholding because she says she is a sexual assault victim.

The statement said: "Mr. Bauer had a brief and wholly consensual sexual relationship initiated by (the woman) beginning in April 2021. We have messages that show (the woman) repeatedly asking for 'rough' sexual encounters involving requests to be 'choked out' and slapped in the face. In both of their encounters, (the woman) drove from San Diego to Mr. Bauer's residence in Pasadena, Calif. where she went on to dictate what she wanted from him sexually and he did what was asked. Following each of her only two meetings with Mr. Bauer, (the woman) spent the night and left without incident, continuing to message Mr. Bauer with friendly and flirtatious banter. In the days following their second and final encounter, (the woman) shared photos of herself and indicated that she had sought medical care for a concussion. Mr. Bauer responded with concern and confusion, and (the woman) was neither angry nor accusatory.

"Mr. Bauer and (the woman) have not corresponded in over a month and have not seen each other in over six weeks. Her basis for filing a protection order is nonexistent, fraudulent, and deliberately omits key facts, information, and her own relevant communications. Any allegations that the pair's encounters were not 100% consensual are baseless, defamatory, and will be refuted to the fullest extent of the law."

[Donn Beach]

He is recorded admitting to punching her without her consent, it's impossible to gain consent with an unconscious person, that pretty much screws his consensual rough sex defense

In fact, it seems to be coming back a little now from when it happened. This was a pretty important aspect, his actions when she was unconscious. Whatever she consented to conscious doesn't apply when she is unconscious. Making that admission on the phone was a mistake

[bpj]

He is recorded admitting to punching her without her consent, it's impossible to have consent with an unconscious person, that pretty much screws his consensual rough sexdefense

And I'm sure the case you just made is exactly why she asked to get choked out.

Then she could blame him for anything according to you.

What I've seen is:

A)

where she went on to dictate what she wanted from him sexually and he did what was asked

B) The restraining order she filed against him, which is where a good amount of these quotes come from, was rejected

C) He wasn't charged.

There was no case to be had, he didn't even need to prove his innocence in court, yet you people continue on acting like he's guilty as if the police didn't have the info available to them that we don't.

We're not exactly walking blind, he wasn't charged. That tells most people something.

[harmony]

Yes, those ones. Unfortunately their compass is as broken as yours is.

They're as uninformed as you admit you are, but they can't stop virtue signaling any opportunity they get to gain soft brained followers.

Innocent until proven guilty is an important part of a moral compass in my opinion. If you believe every rumor about someone without knowing the details and then climb on your soapbox, it doesn't make you look virtuous. It makes you look like a foolish puppet following what everyone else is saying.

No argument with that.

Did you witness the interaction between Trevor Bauer and the woman?

Bauer, the woman and their attorneys in the civil cases (plural) will gather their evidence and likely reach a resolution short of trial. If Bauer's suit and the woman's countersuit go to trial the parties will present their competing evidence and live with the verdicts.

A courtroom is a better venue than a baseball forum to reach those decisions.

No of course I didn't.

Innocent until proven guilty, and he didn't even get charged.

Funny to watch people shift the goalposts to a civil court decision once no criminal charges were filed.

Johnny Depp showed how that can go also. Yet people still rushing to "Guilty until proven innocent".

Preach all you want about the courtroom being the better venue, but tell it to the people assuming guilt. This didn't even reach the courtroom. That's how much merit the case had.

Trevor Bauer shifted the goalposts by initiating his civil suit. The woman merely countersued. Let the civil cases run their course.

https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/ ... on-looming

Friendly advice: Seek a legal education. You're preaching to a public defender who retired today after 26 years in the courtroom. No need for a lecture on the presumption of innocence.