Mariners minors. Thread for interesting news and stats.

[Donn Beach]

On MLB Pipeline, you can look back as far as 2013 to see the Top 30 international prospects in any given year. It's worth glancing through those lists to understand how much of a low percentage bet each of these prospects are. It's incredible actually, how few of them turn into major league players of any kind, not just stars. 2014 is especially bad. If I'm not mistaken, none of the top 30 actually developed into major league players, although maybe there's some guy in there whose name I didn't recognize.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be pleased about what the Mariners are doing with their international scouting and development. We should be. But the idea that we should be pumped as fans that our 16-17 year-old is more highly rated than a bunch of other 16-17 year-olds is absolutely absurd. It's nonsense.

The interesting question to me is why is the failure rate so incredibly high? I know part of it is the skills gap, that they don't have the youth baseball infrastructure in the DR and Venezuela that we do in the states. Also in the states, even with the extensive youth baseball system, the majority of major league regulars actually come from players drafted out of college, which suggests that the skills gap is at play here as well.

Yeah it's a dice roll . But I think it's perfectly legitimate that it was pointed out Pipeline placed a higher ceiling on celesten than they did Franco, that was factual. If you are going to deal with prospects you need a language, ceiling is part of that language. That he may or not be successful, who knows. But you have to be able to have a system that attempts to weigh the relative value of a prospect

[D-train]

Last year Julio had 390 vs right and 120 vs left
Ty France 397 and 154
Geno Suarez 419 and 130
JP Crawford was 364 and 154

1570/(1570+558)= 74.5 for the regulars last year. Maybe it was an outlier though. If he's that much better as a righty, then teams will catch on and throw more righties at him

Here is the Grand total. Right in between 3/4 and 2/3 but closer to 3/4. Good to know.

vs Left 49,821 27.4%
vs Right 132,227 72.6%
182,048 100.0%

And I was thinking in terms of starting pitchers, believe it breaks down about 2/3 righties, 1/3 lefties

That would mean over 80% of relievers would have to be RH which seems unlikely.

[D-train]

On MLB Pipeline, you can look back as far as 2013 to see the Top 30 international prospects in any given year. It's worth glancing through those lists to understand how much of a low percentage bet each of these prospects are. It's incredible actually, how few of them turn into major league players of any kind, not just stars. 2014 is especially bad. If I'm not mistaken, none of the top 30 actually developed into major league players, although maybe there's some guy in there whose name I didn't recognize.

I'm not saying we shouldn't be pleased about what the Mariners are doing with their international scouting and development. We should be. But the idea that we should be pumped as fans that our 16-17 year-old is more highly rated than a bunch of other 16-17 year-olds is absolutely absurd. It's nonsense.

The interesting question to me is why is the failure rate so incredibly high? I know part of it is the skills gap, that they don't have the youth baseball infrastructure in the DR and Venezuela that we do in the states. Also in the states, even with the extensive youth baseball system, the majority of major league regulars actually come from players drafted out of college, which suggests that the skills gap is at play here as well.

Yeah it's a dice roll. But I think it's perfectly legitimate that it was pointed out Pipeline placed a higher ceiling on celesten than they did Franco, that was factual. If you are going to deal with prospects you need a language, ceiling is part of that language. That he may or not be successful, who knows.

Julio has heightened expectations and hopes exponentially. Who was our last Latin home grown star? Edgar? who just turned 60 yo??? LOL

[Donn Beach]

Here is the Grand total. Right in between 3/4 and 2/3 but closer to 3/4. Good to know.

vs Left 49,821 27.4%
vs Right 132,227 72.6%
182,048 100.0%

And I was thinking in terms of starting pitchers, believe it breaks down about 2/3 righties, 1/3 lefties

That would mean over 80% of relievers would have to be RH which seems unlikely.

Lefties started 29.1% of games in 2019, which is either higher than their “28% since 1904” number or lower than their “29.7% since 1969 number,” depending on what you prefer.

Despite making up a smaller share of the MLB population, left-handed pitchers have had success at a high rate over the last few decades due to their unique arsenal and tendencies within the game. [/quote

]https://www.metroleague.org/what-percen ... ft-handed/

[D-train]

So pretty much spot on with the 72.6% that I posted.

[Donn Beach]

So why did you question my 2/3, 1/3?

[D-train]

So why did you question my 2/3, 1/3?

Because that is 66.7%. The actual number is closer to 3/4 so Julio was more accurate. I had assumed 2/3 as well but that is light.

[Donn Beach]

The actual number is 70%, how is that closer to 3/4?

[D-train]

Are you literally going to argue about Math now??? Both my number of 72.6% and your number for starters is closer to 75% than 66.6%

Lefties started 29.1% of games in 2019

And there is zero reason to limit it to starters because switch hitters play the whole game without getting PH for. That is the whole point of being a SH.

[Donn Beach]

I'm not arguing, in asking a question, you understand the difference?