The Debates

[maoling]

I don't know if this means anything to you guys. But as an independent voter who watched the debate, Haley came off by far as the candidate I'd be willing to vote for. If the 2020 election said anything, it's that extreme viewpoints were rejected by independents and fringe-liberals.

I'm pretty sure I will never be voting for a candidate who puts commandments forward. That seems like a slippery slope toward indoctrination versus free thinking.

Yup, if I had to vote based on that one debate, I liked Haley the most last night.

I've liked Vivek in sit-down interviews, but to me he of came off as College Bowl, Captain of the Debate Team, Chess Club, Yell King and Student Body President wannabe. In high school we would have given him a Brownie, or in his case, what we called a Swahili.

My scorecard from last night:

Haley
Burgum
Vivek
DeSantis
Scott
Hutchinson
Pence
Christie

[D-train]

I still like Vivek a lot. Insanely smart, I just think he needs to tone it down a bit. Guessing he was just jacked for the first debate and was swinging out of his shoes. Kind of like Julio on Opening day.

Haley had good moments but I just can't get past the Margaret Thatcher quote.

Imagine if any of the guys would have said that only the opposite. They would have had to drop out of the race immediately. But it is ok to say it because she is a woman. They want to be treated as equal but expect different standards.

It is the same type of crap we get pissed at the left about, reverse racism. Totally hypocritical.

[maoling]

Haley had good moments but I just can't get past the Margaret Thatcher quote.

Seriously, I have married twice in my lifetime, and I won't get into the personal details lol, but both my brides were pretty close to Nikki Haley in terms of focus and get 'er done mentality. I like chicks like that. They get shit done and they have zero tolerance for bullshit. All my girl buddies are like that too.

[Donn Beach]

What was wrong with the thatcher quote? Pretty influencal woman, redefined England as Reagan did America

[D-train]

What was wrong with the thatcher quote? Pretty influencal woman, redefined England as Reagan did America

Thatcher was great. But it is a blatantly sexist comment intended to suggest that one group of people is superior to another solely because of their sex. I can actually give Thatcher a pass given she probably said it 40 years ago when woman were first taking on leadership roles but sad that a woman would feel the need to say it in 2023. Makes her seem weak and insecure about going against men and needing to diminish them.

If a man said the reverse they would be banished from public life forever but it is somehow great and amazing and hilarious and celebrated when a woman says it???

Besides, it is complete made up bull shit.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

What was wrong with the thatcher quote? Pretty influencal woman, redefined England as Reagan did America

I appreciated the quote as well.
Thatcher was a great woman.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

What was wrong with the thatcher quote? Pretty influencal woman, redefined England as Reagan did America

Thatcher was great. But it is a blatantly sexist comment intended to suggest that one group of people is superior to another solely because of their sex. I can actually give Thatcher a pass given she probably said it 40 years ago when woman were first taking on leadership roles but sad that a woman would feel the need to say it in 2023. Makes her seem weak and insecure about going against men and needing to diminish them.

If a man said the reverse they would be banished from public life forever but it is somehow great and amazing and hilarious and celebrated when a woman says it???

Besides, it is complete made up bull shit.

I do agree with you as well my friend.

Be very careful when comparing the quotes of yesteryear to today....that is what I do and get pretty worked up over it.

Whenever there is a potential race/sexist/religious/etc... situation, I always revers them and decide if I'm okay with it. If I'm not, then it's a bad thing. But my friend, I have lost too many hours of sleep over it.

Can you get your hands on some Lisinopril for me?
-this would be an inside joke for those that know what Lisinopril is for-

[D-train]

What was wrong with the thatcher quote? Pretty influencal woman, redefined England as Reagan did America

I appreciated the quote as well.
Thatcher was a great woman.

So you agree that men are only capable of talking and that only women can get things done???

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

What was wrong with the thatcher quote? Pretty influencal woman, redefined England as Reagan did America

I appreciated the quote as well.
Thatcher was a great woman.

So you agree that men are only capable of talking and that only women can get things done???

No. But I do believe that men are responsible for more destruction in this world than women are.

I also believe that it takes a very powerful woman to get things done at Thatcher's level.....not every woman could do it.
Come on man, it was a great quote. Made to force the realization that she was the only woman on that stage.

AND....

I WAS THROWING DONN A BONE. I attack him so much for his lazy-liberal-dumb-assery on these boards I was trying to find something we could agree on. I think that's called growth.....please help me.

[Donn Beach]

What was wrong with the thatcher quote? Pretty influencal woman, redefined England as Reagan did America

I appreciated the quote as well.
Thatcher was a great woman.

So you agree that men are only capable of talking and that only women can get things done???

That was the quote

"If you want something said, ask a man; if you want something done, ask a woman."

That was the quote, funny I was just looking at it. I don't have a problem with it. What she is doing is reversing the stigma connected to women. A woman ran in the latest election here. It was the same sort of criticism. Oh she's very nice, lots of empathy. But she won't be able to get anything done.