Not sure why there are so many fans up in arms

[Michael K.]

Found this in the archives (Orinally posted by BPJ) I think this needs to be on a billboard across the street from the ballpark and printed on the sports page of the Times highlighting Jerry’s “success”
2016:
Aoki $5.5M
Lind $8M
Miley $6M
Seth Smith $6.75M
Iannetta $4.25M
Cishek $4M
Benoit $8M
TOTAL: $42.5M
As % of Payroll: 29.86%
Total WAR: 3.0
$/WAR: $14.17M

2017:
Gallardo $9M
Smyly $6.85M
Cishek $6M
Valencia $5.5M
Rzepczynski $5.5M
Ruiz $4.5M
TOTAL: $37.35M
As % of Payroll: 24.2%
Total WAR: -0.3
$/WAR: error

2018:
Gordon $10.8M
Nicasio $7.75M
David Phelps $5.5M
Rzepczynski $5.5M
TOTAL: $29.6M
As % of Payroll: 18.75%
Total WAR: 0.5
$/WAR: $59.2M

2019:
Gordon $13.3M
Kikuchi $9.5M
TOTAL: $22.8M
As % of Payroll: 15.56%
Total WAR: 0.7
$/WAR: $32.57M

2020:
Kikuchi $16M
Gordon $13.74M
Mallex Smith $2.35M
TOTAL: $32M
Short season

2021:
Kikuchi $16.5M
Paxton $8.5M
Montero $2.25M
TOTAL: $27.25M
As % of Payroll: 37.12%
Total WAR: 1.4
$/WAR: $19.46M

2022:
Frazier $8M
Winker $6.75M
Giles $5.25M
Romo $2M
White $1.4M
TOTAL: $23.4M
As % of Payroll: 22.52%
Total WAR: 0.9
$/WAR: $26M

From this group of players, over 6 years (covid pass for 2020), these players accumulated 6.2 WAR for a cost of $182.9M, good for a $/WAR cost of $29.5M

In a market where they estimate one WAR is worth ~$8M on the free agent market, Dipoto paid $29.5M/WAR for these bums.

This post should be a sticky at the top of the forum. It should be sent to the Times ad a paid advertisement, it should be sent to Seattle Sports Talk and thumbtacked to Salk’s fucking forehead! Most importantly? It should be attached to Jerry’s pink slip!

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Maybe someone should show that to Stanton.

[ice99]

I don’t know that. True. But Anderson has a track record to bank on.

What I know is nobody is banking on Cabby, a 27 YO AAAA 2B rookie, who had a couple good months in the majors until he didn’t, to be anything close to an everyday 2B.

And ya, it’s unfortunate that they were led in that direction. Maybe they should lead elsewhere.

I'm not sure where you got banking from. To be better than Tim Anderson doesn't mean banking. They have Rojas, Bliss, and Moore. Tim Anderson reminds me of Milton Bradley, the last year of being a Seattle Mariner version, not his earlier version. JRod led the FO to picking up the outfielders they acquired.

I don't really care lol. I'm not advocating for the M's to bring in Anderson now. I'm just stating that he could be a bounce back candidate for whoever wants to pick him up (if the Sox don't grab his option).

Rojas/Bliss is fine w. me.

The team has much larger fish to fry.

I'm just saying Cabby is probably better than Tim Anderson at this stage. Cabby had 8 OAA (Outs above average), Tim Anderson had a negative OAA for each of the last 2 years. Anyway GMs won't be dumb enought to be using the word "ideal" to describe Tim Anderson being a bounce back candidate.

[Seattle or Bust]

I'm not sure where you got banking from. To be better than Tim Anderson doesn't mean banking. They have Rojas, Bliss, and Moore. Tim Anderson reminds me of Milton Bradley, the last year of being a Seattle Mariner version, not his earlier version. JRod led the FO to picking up the outfielders they acquired.

I don't really care lol. I'm not advocating for the M's to bring in Anderson now. I'm just stating that he could be a bounce back candidate for whoever wants to pick him up (if the Sox don't grab his option).

Rojas/Bliss is fine w. me.

The team has much larger fish to fry.

I'm just saying Cabby is probably better than Tim Anderson at this stage. Cabby had 8 OAA (Outs above average), Tim Anderson had a negative OAA for each of the last 2 years. Anyway GMs won't be dumb enought to be using the word "ideal" to describe Tim Anderson being a bounce back candidate.

God you are so strange.

You and Harmony are truly 2 of a kind.

[ice99]

I don't really care lol. I'm not advocating for the M's to bring in Anderson now. I'm just stating that he could be a bounce back candidate for whoever wants to pick him up (if the Sox don't grab his option).

Rojas/Bliss is fine w. me.

The team has much larger fish to fry.

I'm just saying Cabby is probably better than Tim Anderson at this stage. Cabby had 8 OAA (Outs above average), Tim Anderson had a negative OAA for each of the last 2 years. Anyway GMs won't be dumb enought to be using the word "ideal" to describe Tim Anderson being a bounce back candidate.

God you are so strange.

You and Harmony are truly 2 of a kind.

It's not that strange to see that they wouldn't be using the term "ideal" to speak about Tim Anderson being a bounce back candidate. But your obsession with Harmony is getting a little weird.

[bpj]

JERRY DIPOTO ACCUSED OF SEXUAL ASSAULT.

The following message was sent to the Mariners anonymously.

"Dear Mariners,

Jerry Dipoto f****d us.

Sincerely,
All fans except Vogelbomb"

[D-train]

Found this in the archives (Orinally posted by BPJ) I think this needs to be on a billboard across the street from the ballpark and printed on the sports page of the Times highlighting Jerry’s “success”
2016:
Aoki $5.5M
Lind $8M
Miley $6M
Seth Smith $6.75M
Iannetta $4.25M
Cishek $4M
Benoit $8M
TOTAL: $42.5M
As % of Payroll: 29.86%
Total WAR: 3.0
$/WAR: $14.17M

2017:
Gallardo $9M
Smyly $6.85M
Cishek $6M
Valencia $5.5M
Rzepczynski $5.5M
Ruiz $4.5M
TOTAL: $37.35M
As % of Payroll: 24.2%
Total WAR: -0.3
$/WAR: error

2018:
Gordon $10.8M
Nicasio $7.75M
David Phelps $5.5M
Rzepczynski $5.5M
TOTAL: $29.6M
As % of Payroll: 18.75%
Total WAR: 0.5
$/WAR: $59.2M

2019:
Gordon $13.3M
Kikuchi $9.5M
TOTAL: $22.8M
As % of Payroll: 15.56%
Total WAR: 0.7
$/WAR: $32.57M

2020:
Kikuchi $16M
Gordon $13.74M
Mallex Smith $2.35M
TOTAL: $32M
Short season

2021:
Kikuchi $16.5M
Paxton $8.5M
Montero $2.25M
TOTAL: $27.25M
As % of Payroll: 37.12%
Total WAR: 1.4
$/WAR: $19.46M

2022:
Frazier $8M
Winker $6.75M
Giles $5.25M
Romo $2M
White $1.4M
TOTAL: $23.4M
As % of Payroll: 22.52%
Total WAR: 0.9
$/WAR: $26M

From this group of players, over 6 years (covid pass for 2020), these players accumulated 6.2 WAR for a cost of $182.9M, good for a $/WAR cost of $29.5M

In a market where they estimate one WAR is worth ~$8M on the free agent market, Dipoto paid $29.5M/WAR for these bums.

And here is 2023:
Teo $14M
Wong $10M
Pollock $7M
Hummell $750k
La Stella $750k
Gott $1.2M
Topa $720k
TOTAL: $35.2M
Speier $720k
As % of Payroll: 26.1%
Total WAR: 1.9
$/WAR: $18.5M

Grand Total $218.1M for 8.1 WAR $26.7M per WAR

[D-train]

Another good piece. I just can't see them getting away with business as usual any longer.

https://sodomojo.com/posts/seaside-thou ... hc1x5x2fdt

[D-train]

Hey a smart national baseball guy:

[Donn Beach]

He says Dipoto is right