Hamas Attack in Israel

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by auroraave » Sun Oct 15, 2023 11:54 pm

Most insane aspect no one talking about - Israel (netanyahu) created Hamas to counter the Palestinians - this blood is on his hands. He's done.
Kim goes on to show the pattern - we arm rebel group to battle enemy, rebel group does, but them becomes a major problem for us - listen to her list - it's a brutal truth we are the ones creating all the chaos.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrYoa6B ... KimIversen

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by ddraig » Mon Oct 16, 2023 3:57 am

A poll conducted by the Palestinian Center for Public Opinion (PCPO) back in 2014 found that 89% of Palestinians support terror attacks against Israel. You have to remember, though, it is likely you'd come up missing or murdered if you voted against Hamas. Still, that's quite a majority.

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by D-train » Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:17 am

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by gil » Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:16 pm

auroraave wrote:
Sun Oct 15, 2023 11:54 pm
Most insane aspect no one talking about - Israel (netanyahu) created Hamas to counter the Palestinians - this blood is on his hands. He's done.
Kim goes on to show the pattern - we arm rebel group to battle enemy, rebel group does, but them becomes a major problem for us - listen to her list - it's a brutal truth we are the ones creating all the chaos.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrYoa6B ... KimIversen
I'm not sure "Israel (netanyahu) created Hamas to counter the Palestinians" is accurate. But it seems that Netanyahu CHOSE ways to support Hamas as a way to divide the leadership of the Palestinians in the West Bank (i.e., the Palestinian Liberation Organization - PLO) from the de facto rulers of Gaza (i.e, Hamas). In effect, try to keep the two geographically separate Palestinian areas from political coordination and unified efforts toward a Palestinian state.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years ... our-faces/

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by gil » Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:28 pm

Definitely Moreno with KOMO has a different take than the Seattle Times, whose coverage was closer to what Rantz describes.

I don't get, however, Rantz's statement that
I obviously don’t know why Moreno was lying. I imagine it’s a combination of wanting to give far-left Seattle what he think it wants and is liberal himself.
If far left Seattle is pro-Palastinian, why would liberal Moreno say the rally called for peace? Why not say (if you are Moreno) that the rally called for eliminating Israel and justified "resistance" (i.e., the attacks of October 7). Isn't that what he is implying are the positions of the the far left?

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by gil » Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:31 pm

D-train wrote:
Sun Oct 15, 2023 4:51 pm
gil wrote:
Sun Oct 15, 2023 4:40 pm
Among the results of a poll by SSRS for CNN

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/ ... tified.pdf

"Do you think Israel's military response to Hamas attacks is ... fully justified"
50% overall

38% of Democrats
68% of Republicans

38% of liberals
72% of conservatives

27% age 18-34
65% age 45 +
81% age 65 +

Even without seeing the crosstabs, it appears that young, liberal Democrats are the least likely to support Israel's military response.
Shocking.....Yet the most likely to support Ukraine War effort.
I have seen any statistics by age regarding support for Ukraine, but I know that Democrats are more likely than Republicans to support that. And the gap has been widening, as overall support has declined, with more of that among Republicans than among Democrats.

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by D-train » Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:43 pm

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by gil » Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:46 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:43 pm
Oh goody. If the government is funded at all, that is. :lol:

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by D-train » Mon Oct 16, 2023 4:55 pm

So nice of her to happily offer up US Tax payer money like it is hers. Looks like she doesn't have to worry about money. Must be nice.
The former Fed chair earned more than $7 million giving speeches to big banks and other businesses before becoming treasury secretary.

It no longer takes hundreds of millions to be one of the wealthiest people in the president’s cabinet. Just ask Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, who is worth an estimated $20 million—
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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by bpj » Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:01 am

bpj wrote:
Sun Oct 15, 2023 8:07 pm
Many people questioning how the attacks could have happened. Some saying Netanyahu let it happen.

https://twitter.com/ShadowofEzra/status ... qeVbA&s=19

If the US starts funneling money to Israel, it's just going to look like a reflection of Ukraine.

The libs got all the money they could out of us for Ukraine, time to squeeze the right for some loot to support Israel and keep those defense contractors rolling in cash.
Well, there it is.. just another way to rob us blind.

That's about how much Trump was asking for to build the wall. Back then we didn't have the money. Until Ukraine of course............ then coming up with 10x that amount as a handout was no problem...
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