D-Trains short and SWEET Off season plan

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Post by Donn Beach » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:16 pm

D-train wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:54 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:31 pm
You're spent the last six months convincing me what a bust JK is but the Mets are going to view him as an outfield upgrade. And this is because Cohen gets to save some money, okay.

You want to trade JK? What I would find is a team that is actually on a limited budget, that might be interested in sacrificing at bats for the chance to develop an outfielder on the cheap, a rebuilding team. I can't see the Mets giving up as good a trade piece as Alonso for a player I can't see them having a use for
Mets have one good OFer in Nimmo. That is it. If they are intent on trading Alonso as has been public knowledge for months, JK is a perfect fit. Change of scenery all that jazz.
A perfect fit lol...then why isn't he a perfect fit in Seattle? I agree the Mets need another outfielder. To me them bringing JK to NYC as their starting left fielder would be the frying pan to the fire. Can't imagine what they see in that, and don't tell me cost savings lol

Public knowledge?
That's public knowledge
“I expect Pete (Alonso) to be the Opening Day first baseman next year," Stearns said.

This certainly is the most update yet about Alonso's future with the team. He has developed into one of the best sluggers in all of baseball and a Mets fan favorite since debuting for the club in 2019. Although there is nothing set in stone and the two sides need to come to terms on a deal, this at least is an indication that the executive team expects him to be with the club moving forward.

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Re: D-Trains short and SWEET Off season plan

Post by D-train » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:31 pm

Big_Maple wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:07 pm
Seems like the Mets may be taking a step back year as opposed to the dichotomous strategies of tearing it down to the studs or just buying top level talent and cobbling together an all star roster. In this sense, JK does seem like a good fit - young, controllable and still owning untapped and unrealized potential. Cohen has a sense of urgency around reaching the post season (unlike the M’s FO), so they may be taking a risk in bringing on an underperformer with hopes of turning him around, but maybe they’ll use that as leverage to buy low.

For JK - I’d guess he’d pee his pants to be back with the Mets. I seem to recall him being a little upset at the trade, and he doesn’t seem to have warmed to the organization since he arrived.

Could work. Thanks for the proposal, DT. I like.
Thanks BM.
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Re: D-Trains short and SWEET Off season plan

Post by D-train » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:34 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:16 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:54 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:31 pm
You're spent the last six months convincing me what a bust JK is but the Mets are going to view him as an outfield upgrade. And this is because Cohen gets to save some money, okay.

You want to trade JK? What I would find is a team that is actually on a limited budget, that might be interested in sacrificing at bats for the chance to develop an outfielder on the cheap, a rebuilding team. I can't see the Mets giving up as good a trade piece as Alonso for a player I can't see them having a use for
Mets have one good OFer in Nimmo. That is it. If they are intent on trading Alonso as has been public knowledge for months, JK is a perfect fit. Change of scenery all that jazz.
A perfect fit lol...then why isn't he a perfect fit in Seattle? I agree the Mets need another outfielder. To me them bringing JK to NYC as their starting left fielder would be the frying pan to the fire. Can't imagine what they see in that, and don't tell me cost savings lol

Public knowledge?
That's public knowledge
“I expect Pete (Alonso) to be the Opening Day first baseman next year," Stearns said.

This certainly is the most update yet about Alonso's future with the team. He has developed into one of the best sluggers in all of baseball and a Mets fan favorite since debuting for the club in 2019. Although there is nothing set in stone and the two sides need to come to terms on a deal, this at least is an indication that the executive team expects him to be with the club moving forward.
LOL you are such a fucking dope. What is Sterns going to say, "Alonso is a POS a clubhouse cancer and the sooner he is gone the better. I just hope their is a team dumb enough to take him off our hands."

Can't wait for your off season plan!
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Re: D-Trains short and SWEET Off season plan

Post by AZOldDawg » Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:48 pm

I think we will have to throw in another decent player in the Alonzo deal and I would do it in a heartbeat. I think their are other teams out there that would to your deal But I wouldn't give up Penix :D :D :D :D

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Re: D-Trains short and SWEET Off season plan

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:17 pm

D-train wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:34 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 2:16 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 1:54 pm


Mets have one good OFer in Nimmo. That is it. If they are intent on trading Alonso as has been public knowledge for months, JK is a perfect fit. Change of scenery all that jazz.
A perfect fit lol...then why isn't he a perfect fit in Seattle? I agree the Mets need another outfielder. To me them bringing JK to NYC as their starting left fielder would be the frying pan to the fire. Can't imagine what they see in that, and don't tell me cost savings lol

Public knowledge?
That's public knowledge
“I expect Pete (Alonso) to be the Opening Day first baseman next year," Stearns said.

This certainly is the most update yet about Alonso's future with the team. He has developed into one of the best sluggers in all of baseball and a Mets fan favorite since debuting for the club in 2019. Although there is nothing set in stone and the two sides need to come to terms on a deal, this at least is an indication that the executive team expects him to be with the club moving forward.
LOL you are such a fucking dope. What is Sterns going to say, "Alonso is a POS a clubhouse cancer and the sooner he is gone the better. I just hope their is a team dumb enough to take him off our hands."

Can't wait for your off season plan!
Fact is he doesn't have to say anything, you are the one that brought up public knowledge, so what is it exactly?

Your off season plan is pretty good, you can't stand a little criticism? I agree the Mets could use an outfielder, the relative value is probably okay. But you have to assume the Mets are working with the same information as you. You hate the idea of JK being the opening day outfielder for the mariners but the Mets are going to embrace it. The Mets a team the opposite of the mariners, happy to spend, driven to win. You have spent six months denigrating JK as a possibility as a mariner left fielder. Okay, I'm a Mets fan, convince me I should be excited to have him as a left fielder.

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Re: D-Trains short and SWEET Off season plan

Post by Captain 97 » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:26 pm

I'd rather try to trade for Soto than Alonso. He is a much better player at a position where we have more need and I think we would have a better chance at resigning him with his Buddy Julio here.

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Post by Donn Beach » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:31 pm

I was going to say, trying to think of what my plan would look like. Trading Woo for Soto makes more sense than JK for Alanso. Not that JK for Alanso wouldn't be great but it can't just be able unloading crap you don't want. To be realistic it's got to hurt

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Re: D-Trains short and SWEET Off season plan

Post by D-train » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:31 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:26 pm
I'd rather try to trade for Soto than Alonso. He is a much better player at a position where we have more need and I think we would have a better chance at resigning him with his Buddy Julio here.
Yeah I definitely considered Soto but he would cost more both in terms of lives and treasure and would pushed payroll to almost $200M God forbid. Is he buddies with Julio? I hadn't heard that.
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Re: D-Trains short and SWEET Off season plan

Post by D-train » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:35 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:31 pm
I was going to say, trying to think of what my plan would look like. Trading Woo for Soto makes more sense than JK for Alanso. Not that JK for Alanso wouldn't be great but it can't just be able unloading crap you don't want. To be realistic it's got to hurt
I get what you are saying in terms of me seemingly contradicting myself but I seem to be in the minority in my thinking about him. I think the Mets could sell it as we got back the guy we drafted fourth, he was once a top 3 prospect, he is only 24 yo! And he had a .750 OPS and is finally figuring it out! And if you compare his and Alonso's WAR on an equivalent per PA basis it is nearly identical. I bet most of our fanbase would be FURIOUS if we did that trade so while I would be doing cart wheels there would be MASSIVE pain on a more macro level.
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Re: D-Trains short and SWEET Off season plan

Post by D-train » Wed Oct 18, 2023 3:38 pm

Another reason I went with Alonso is I think Bellinger would be wasted at 1B. Could do Soto and Donovan in the corners but then we are back to France and Ford at 1B/DH. Total of 1 WAR last season.
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