Hamas Attack in Israel

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Fri Oct 20, 2023 5:02 pm

I found this to be interesting!!

We cannot listen to the current MSM for anything...
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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by Coeurd’Alene J » Tue Oct 24, 2023 10:14 am

Walla Walla Dawg II wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 10:16 pm
How many wars did Trump get us involved with?
How many wars started around the world when Trump was in office?
There was only one. The swamp in DC. And it’s still going on. I never dreamed how bad it was and is in our government. We are in trouble

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by D-train » Tue Oct 24, 2023 11:34 am

These people are so unimaginably fucked in the head it defies human comprehension. They are such mindless sheep the have decided to be Pro Palestine pro Muslim despite the fact they would executed just for being gay in many Muslim counties. And why? Because their Anti Israel fellow libs are. THAT IS THE ONLY REASON!
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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by D-train » Tue Oct 24, 2023 11:43 am

And they somehow top it. Gay people fighting for reproductive justice which will free Palestine:
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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by auroraave » Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:08 pm

I've never seen the term 'knuckleheads" more perfectly captured in all my life. Can anyone explain what 'reproductive justice" is? Seriously, I have never heard of this. is this more nonsensical leftist word salad? Ever notice in these scenarios/pictures there is never anyone you would want to reproduce with? #irony :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by D-train » Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:12 pm

auroraave wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2023 12:08 pm
I've never seen the term 'knuckleheads" more perfectly captured in all my life. Can anyone explain what 'reproductive justice" is? Seriously, I have never heard of this. is this more nonsensical leftist word salad? Ever notice in these scenarios/pictures there is never anyone you would want to reproduce with? #irony :lol: :lol: :lol:
No idea what it is other than it will free Palestine! LOL
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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by gil » Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:16 pm

A lot of people on "both sides" seem to enjoy finding the most extreme, outrageous behavior on the "other side" and then (1) ridicule the extremists and (2) ascribe that extremism and outrageousness to a majority. I consider eliminating Israel to be an extreme position, and "queers for Palestine" to be outrageous. (Apologies to my queer friends who like to be "outrageous" lol)

That said, there appears to be a problem brewing for President Biden on the left wing of the Democratic Party. Lots of Democrats who strongly condemned the Hamas attacks do not want the US to support Israel's planned ground invasion that likely will result in thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of deaths among Palestinian civilians.

This is not necessarily an "anti-israel" position. But it would be especially true among Democratic voters who are of Arab ancestry, and particularly among Palestinian-Americans. Beyond a general humanitarian concern, many Palestinian-Americans have family and friends in Gaza. Therefore concern about Israel's military plans is visceral, and understandable.

The Muslim population in several "swing" states is over two percent. If significant numbers of Muslim voters abandon Biden in places like Michigan, Minnesota, and Virginia, there could be problems for Biden's re-election campaign. Of course, it also depends on the Republican platform and candidate. All the Republicans are going to attack Biden, of course, no matter what he does. That's how the game is played. But I don't really see any current (or plausible) Republican candidate calling out Israel on behalf of the Palestinian people. But it is possible that the Muslim-American vote could go to a left-wing third party candidate like Cornel West. (I don't know what RFK Jr's stance is on the Israel-Hamas war).

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by D-train » Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:34 pm

Not to mention, Jews have traditionally been Dems to a large extent. I could see a mass migration to the Republican party....

So Biden could ironically be getting it from both ends. lol
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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by gil » Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:06 pm

D-train wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:34 pm
Not to mention, Jews have traditionally been Dems to a large extent. I could see a mass migration to the Republican party....

So Biden could ironically be getting it from both ends. lol
I think that is true about Jewish-Americans ... *IF* Republicans maintain a strong pro-Israel stance.

I think both major parties have their factions that are in danger of splintering. For the Republicans, it seems that there is very strong pro-Israel sentiment among many Evangelicals. But isn't the "America First" faction opposed to foreign engagements (i.e., Ukraine) that don't directly affect American interests? I'm curious how this group views the Israel-Hamas war as it plays out. Does "American First" mean "let Israel fight its own battles, none of our business"?

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Re: Hamas Attack in Israel

Post by D-train » Tue Oct 24, 2023 9:03 pm

gil wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2023 5:06 pm
D-train wrote:
Tue Oct 24, 2023 4:34 pm
Not to mention, Jews have traditionally been Dems to a large extent. I could see a mass migration to the Republican party....

So Biden could ironically be getting it from both ends. lol
I think that is true about Jewish-Americans ... *IF* Republicans maintain a strong pro-Israel stance.

I think both major parties have their factions that are in danger of splintering. For the Republicans, it seems that there is very strong pro-Israel sentiment among many Evangelicals. But isn't the "America First" faction opposed to foreign engagements (i.e., Ukraine) that don't directly affect American interests? I'm curious how this group views the Israel-Hamas war as it plays out. Does "American First" mean "let Israel fight its own battles, none of our business"?
Dems think they are "buying" Latino and Far left Globalist votes by having an open Southern Border so supporting a measly $10 billion donation to Israel to buy the Jewish vote is probably worth it to most of them; even the American First contingent.
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