PFF grades thread

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Re: PFF grades thread

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:50 am

Yeah that seems to be it


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"Witherspoon is morphing into a force to be reckoned with. He stuffed the stat sheet with five total tackles, a pressure and two pass breakups. He allowed three catches for just 14 yards against a dangerous Bengals attack. Interestingly, Seattle has shifted Witherspoon to the slot over the past two games, and he's responded with a 91.4 overall grade in that span, the best in the NFL. His aggression in run support has solidified a previous weakness. The idea of him and Jamal Adams roaming inside the numbers is going to give offensive coordinators headaches."

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Re: PFF grades thread

Post by D-train » Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:01 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:50 am
Yeah that seems to be it


Wasting a fifth pick on a nickelback
"Witherspoon is morphing into a force to be reckoned with. He stuffed the stat sheet with five total tackles, a pressure and two pass breakups. He allowed three catches for just 14 yards against a dangerous Bengals attack. Interestingly, Seattle has shifted Witherspoon to the slot over the past two games, and he's responded with a 91.4 overall grade in that span, the best in the NFL. His aggression in run support has solidified a previous weakness. The idea of him and Jamal Adams roaming inside the numbers is going to give offensive coordinators headaches."
Hate to say it but he is what we thought we were getting with Adams...
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Re: PFF grades thread

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Oct 19, 2023 12:28 pm

Why hate on it, was thinking about the talk earlier of releasing Adams. Think they have the makings of a nice combination. Harkening back to the good old days

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Re: PFF grades thread

Post by SeattleAddict » Thu Oct 19, 2023 5:34 pm

it's kinda shocking how good Witherspoon has been in the slot, considering he never played there before. It fits his style perfectly, but a new position is always tough to adjust to.

People were saying he was small and slow, and he has looked neither. He looks strong and solidly built, and looks like a freaking rocket out there. Goes to show you can't always trust the combine numbers.

Was a good point about him and Adams. If they line up on opposite sides, either one could rush the QB, and you wouldn't know which, and thus wouldn't know the hot route. Huge problem for QBs and OCs.

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Re: PFF grades thread

Post by Cascade Kid » Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:46 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:50 am
Yeah that seems to be it


Wasting a fifth pick on a nickelback
"Witherspoon is morphing into a force to be reckoned with. He stuffed the stat sheet with five total tackles, a pressure and two pass breakups. He allowed three catches for just 14 yards against a dangerous Bengals attack. Interestingly, Seattle has shifted Witherspoon to the slot over the past two games, and he's responded with a 91.4 overall grade in that span, the best in the NFL. His aggression in run support has solidified a previous weakness. The idea of him and Jamal Adams roaming inside the numbers is going to give offensive coordinators headaches."
I was saying the same thing in a post back on 9/1. Spoon played a lot of snaps inside the hash at CB while at Illinois, this is why I assumed he would see plenty of snaps in the nickle slot in the NFL, especially since we appeared talent-rich at DB at the time.

https://www.marinertalk.com/viewtopic.p ... 9#p257742
I think once Witherspoon and Adams take to the field you might not see much difference between the two responsibilities of the the two players when Adams plays in the box. I'm willing to bet that since both shine at playing downhill we will see Pete using the combo in blitz schemes where one drops into a short zone while the other rushes a gap, or both drop into coverage, or both blitz the gaps. This will give opposing QBs nightmares, so I suppose it could be called the Nightmare Nickel. It will be very interesting to see if this is how they will be used.

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Re: PFF grades thread

Post by D-train » Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:55 pm

Cascade Kid wrote:
Fri Oct 20, 2023 6:46 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Oct 19, 2023 11:50 am
Yeah that seems to be it


Wasting a fifth pick on a nickelback
"Witherspoon is morphing into a force to be reckoned with. He stuffed the stat sheet with five total tackles, a pressure and two pass breakups. He allowed three catches for just 14 yards against a dangerous Bengals attack. Interestingly, Seattle has shifted Witherspoon to the slot over the past two games, and he's responded with a 91.4 overall grade in that span, the best in the NFL. His aggression in run support has solidified a previous weakness. The idea of him and Jamal Adams roaming inside the numbers is going to give offensive coordinators headaches."
I was saying the same thing in a post back on 9/1. Spoon played a lot of snaps inside the hash at CB while at Illinois, this is why I assumed he would see plenty of snaps in the nickle slot in the NFL, especially since we appeared talent-rich at DB at the time.

https://www.marinertalk.com/viewtopic.p ... 9#p257742
I think once Witherspoon and Adams take to the field you might not see much difference between the two responsibilities of the the two players when Adams plays in the box. I'm willing to bet that since both shine at playing downhill we will see Pete using the combo in blitz schemes where one drops into a short zone while the other rushes a gap, or both drop into coverage, or both blitz the gaps. This will give opposing QBs nightmares, so I suppose it could be called the Nightmare Nickel. It will be very interesting to see if this is how they will be used.
Nice call CK! :)
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Re: PFF grades thread

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Re: PFF grades thread

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Tue Oct 24, 2023 8:35 pm

Do we really want him sitting on the bench while DK trades barbs and cheap shots with defensive backs away from the ball?

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Re: PFF grades thread

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:35 am

He doesn't have to sit on the bench, you run three receiver sets

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Re: PFF grades thread

Post by D-train » Wed Oct 25, 2023 1:54 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Oct 25, 2023 12:35 am
He doesn't have to sit on the bench, you run three receiver sets
We have four starting caliber WRs.
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