Hamas Attack in Israel

[ddraig]

How is Israel a terrorist? Are you suggesting they do not defend themselves when attacked? Sounds like it. And Israel doesn't go around raping women they "capture" and then killing them. Nor does it take families out of their homes and kill the kids in front of the parents! They told people to go into South Gaza so as to limit incidental casualties. And they don't stand innocents up in front of them to fight behind human shields.

Are you suggesting that focused attacks on known Hamas strongholds is a terrorist tactic? Do you STILL believe that Israel dropped a bomb onto a hospital and killed 500+ civilians?

[bpj]

How is Israel a terrorist? Are you suggesting they do not defend themselves when attacked? Sounds like it. And Israel doesn't go around raping women they "capture" and then killing them. Nor does it take families out of their homes and kill the kids in front of the parents! They told people to go into South Gaza so as to limit incidental casualties. And they don't stand innocents up in front of them to fight behind human shields.

Are you suggesting that focused attacks on known Hamas strongholds is a terrorist tactic? Do you STILL believe that Israel dropped a bomb onto a hospital and killed 500+ civilians?

I'm suggesting this didn't start on October 7th. Hamas didn't show up one day and decide to do this.

In the same way that everyone blames Russia for invading Ukraine but ignores Ukraine murdering thousands in Donbas.

And, good question about the hospital bomb. Obviously it didn't hit the hospital, but, no, I don't think it was a failed Hamas rocket either. Video shows the trajectory from Israel. North Korea seems to agree.

Israel may not rape their captives. They just go kick Palestinians out and rape them of their homes. If "Settlers" kept showing up stealing our homes, I wouldn't like them either.

I also saw a graph showing that there were just as many Palestinians killed by Israel this year before the Hamas attack as after. I don't think we're being spoonfed all info necessary to make informed decisions.

That's the point. I think Americans are supporting Israel, but they have no idea why. It doesn't take much research to see there isn't a good guy in the Israel/Palestine fight.

[gil]

I think there are better sources of information than the North Korean Foreign Ministry.

[bpj]

I think there are better sources of information than the North Korean Foreign Ministry.

Sadly I'd trust them over what comes out of our own government.

I wouldn't trust them in a vacuum, but when what they're saying just matches up with what I'm seeing elsewhere, I don't think their statement can be brushed aside without consideration.

It's apparent that whenever anyone disagrees with the official narrative about Israel, they get called an antisemite.

When I see things like that I'm immediately skeptical. The Jews aren't special. Israel is not beyond reproach.

[D-train]

Two peoples fighting for thousands of years over a hell hole in the sand. Perhaps they deserve each other.....

[bpj]

Two peoples fighting for thousands of years over a hell hole in the sand. Perhaps they deserve each other.....

Yep, that's about where I'm at with it. They all want to rumble, why are we playing referee.

It seemed like our government had billions in aid ready for Israel before they even asked for anything. Why? They're not poor are they? Especially compared to Palestine. Makes no sense.

Paying for our own problems isn't enough? We need to fund Ukraine and Israel's conflicts?

Especially when they couldn't find $10 Billion for Trump to build the wall, but now we can ship hundreds of billions to fight other countries thousand year wars?

[Sibelius Hindemith]

So much ignorance on here. Israel is on the front line of our conflict with Iran, one that will inevitably involve American casualties. They aren't just intent on annihilating the Jews, they would do the exact same thing to all of you. The Hamas terrorists responsible for 1400 Israeli deaths on Oct 7 were trained and equipped by Iranian forces. Wake up. And please stop parroting propaganda from Hamas, Hezbollah and N. Korea (who supplied many of the missiles used in the attack).

[bpj]

So much ignorance on here. Israel is on the front line of our conflict with Iran, one that will inevitably involve American casualties. They aren't just intent on annihilating the Jews, they would do the exact same thing to all of you. The Hamas terrorists responsible for 1400 Israeli deaths on Oct 7 were trained and equipped by Iranian forces. Wake up. And please stop parroting propaganda from Hamas, Hezbollah and N. Korea (who supplied many of the missiles used in the attack).

Without Israel we don't have a conflict with Iran.

Nobody has a problem with annihilating Hamas.

Please stop parroting the propaganda you hear from Israel and the US.

This war is exactly what Israel wanted, don't fool yourself. They (supposedly) lost 1400 people, now they have hundreds of billions of dollars incoming from the US and free reign to exterminate the Palestinians with the west's blessing. How convenient, they got exactly what they wanted all along.

I don't have a dog in this fight. I don't care about Israel or Palestine. They can wipe each other out for all I care.

One thing I know for sure is I don't trust anything the media or government says about it. Listening to the people, Israel is far from blameless in this.

[bpj]

Good insight from a Saudi.

His solution is burning all Palestinians and considers Netanyahu a coward for letting any get out.

If that's the goal now, it seems like they're on track.

It's also concerning how many Palestinians seem to be in the US if they're all bad.

https://twitter.com/jess_ih_ka/status/1 ... ZCveA&s=19

[Sibelius Hindemith]

The Palestinians have been offered their own state with Israel offering land concessions no less than 5 times (including a deal brokered by the Clinton admin and rejected by Arafat). They have no interest in a two state solution. From day one their position has been that Israel has no right to exist and that all Jews should be murdered or driven out of the Middle East. Meanwhile, in Israel there are Arab Muslims serving in their Knesset and 18% of the population is Muslim Arab and they have have all the same rights and freedoms as the Jewish population.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demogra ... 20million).

Anyone that attempts to draw a moral equivalence between Palestine and Israel is ignorant (or worse). One wants peace and the other wants genocide.