Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:25 pm

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

Post by harmony » Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:29 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:42 pm
bpj wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:56 pm
Looks like 4.43 ERA for Giolito compared to a 4.68 ERA for Silva for their careers.

Giolito has about the same career ERA (4.43) as Justin Dunn (4.44) currently has.

Woo has a 4.21.
Miller has a 4.32.

I'm not sure there's much upside in Giolito as a 30yo, but maybe there's something with him they can fix.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... ir=default
Sure lets sign and trade for a bunch of guys that need fixing. They will be really cheap saving Stanton even more money and if it doesn't work we can just try again in 2025.
Every signing and every trade carries risks.

One could argue that an acquiring team would need to fix likely Cy Young winner Blake Snell, who this season led the National League in walks while averaging less than six innings a start despite an average of 99 pitches per start.

Some folks like to buy high and sell low.

Others don't.

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:36 pm

harmony wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:29 pm
D-train wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:42 pm
bpj wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 7:56 pm
Looks like 4.43 ERA for Giolito compared to a 4.68 ERA for Silva for their careers.

Giolito has about the same career ERA (4.43) as Justin Dunn (4.44) currently has.

Woo has a 4.21.
Miller has a 4.32.

I'm not sure there's much upside in Giolito as a 30yo, but maybe there's something with him they can fix.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... ir=default
Sure lets sign and trade for a bunch of guys that need fixing. They will be really cheap saving Stanton even more money and if it doesn't work we can just try again in 2025.
Every signing and every trade carries risks.

One could argue that an acquiring team would need to fix likely Cy Young winner Blake Snell, who this season led the National League in walks while averaging less than six innings a start despite an average of 99 pitches per start.

Some folks like to buy high and sell low.

Others don't.
I have found the phrase "you get what you pay for" to be pretty rock solid over the years.

I like players that perform regardless of the cost. Mike Ford for minimum wage is my buy low candidate....
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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

Post by bpj » Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:36 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:36 pm
harmony wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:29 pm
D-train wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:42 pm


Sure lets sign and trade for a bunch of guys that need fixing. They will be really cheap saving Stanton even more money and if it doesn't work we can just try again in 2025.
Every signing and every trade carries risks.

One could argue that an acquiring team would need to fix likely Cy Young winner Blake Snell, who this season led the National League in walks while averaging less than six innings a start despite an average of 99 pitches per start.

Some folks like to buy high and sell low.

Others don't.
I have found the phrase "you get what you pay for" to be pretty rock solid over the years.

I like players that perform regardless of the cost. Mike Ford for minimum wage is my buy low candidate....
Yep, I like where Blake Snell is on the list of 2021-2023 pitchers.

He's ranked 19th in MLB above some pretty good names. And there may be a little room for improvement. Seems like a decent guy to gamble on if there's actually a hometown discount on the table, finally.

Sonny Gray is right there with him, but Gray is also 3 years older.

Gray may be a decent depth gamble with upside though.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... geitems=30

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:49 pm

Both would be good but I like the 25 yo with the 1.16 ERA and 2 HRs allowed in 171 innings for lower cost. There goes D train focusing on value again. lol
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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:50 pm

That guy is the biggest sure thing to ever come out of Japan and that includes Ichiro....

He could triple his ERA and still be a number 2 starter.
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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 04, 2023 10:54 pm

Miley? Whose in? LOL
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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

Post by harmony » Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:03 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:36 pm
harmony wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:29 pm
D-train wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:42 pm


Sure lets sign and trade for a bunch of guys that need fixing. They will be really cheap saving Stanton even more money and if it doesn't work we can just try again in 2025.
Every signing and every trade carries risks.

One could argue that an acquiring team would need to fix likely Cy Young winner Blake Snell, who this season led the National League in walks while averaging less than six innings a start despite an average of 99 pitches per start.

Some folks like to buy high and sell low.

Others don't.
I have found the phrase "you get what you pay for" to be pretty rock solid over the years.

I like players that perform regardless of the cost. Mike Ford for minimum wage is my buy low candidate....
Every deal carries risks.

Just two years ago the Mariners gave a reigning Cy Young winner a nine-figure contract.

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:06 pm

harmony wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 11:03 pm
D-train wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:36 pm
harmony wrote:
Sat Nov 04, 2023 9:29 pm

Every signing and every trade carries risks.

One could argue that an acquiring team would need to fix likely Cy Young winner Blake Snell, who this season led the National League in walks while averaging less than six innings a start despite an average of 99 pitches per start.

Some folks like to buy high and sell low.

Others don't.
I have found the phrase "you get what you pay for" to be pretty rock solid over the years.

I like players that perform regardless of the cost. Mike Ford for minimum wage is my buy low candidate....
Every deal carries risks.

Just two years ago the Mariners gave a reigning Cy Young winner a nine-figure contract.
I know.

I know.
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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League thread!

Post by bpj » Sun Nov 05, 2023 12:24 am

I didn't realize Aaron Nola was the same age as most of these guys.

He may be worth a look despite the down year.

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