Clowney NFC Defensive Player of the Week

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Re: Clowney NFC Defensive Player of the Week

Post by Michael K. » Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:05 pm

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The tackles were coming off 4 and 7 week lay-offs. And i think they were using a back-up center for at least part of the game. Don't know how their guards were doing.
It’s funny...not only am I hearing excuses for who the Niners didn’t have, but also the guys they had were rusty! We scored a TE with the only TE we had available...he was on the practice squad a few weeks ago. Our backup Center played the entire game, and is probably the smallest O Libeman to take the field that day. Our new Safety, who ,any credit as being a huge difference in the game, hadn’t played in how many weeks?

I’ve said it before, but why do excuses only work one way? One year, I heard all week how the red hot Redskins were going to beat us. With their backs to the wall they had rallied around the death of their starting Safety and a third string QB. Then, when we kicked their asses? They just couldn’t recover from the death of their safety and the third string QB stunk. You just can’t make this shit up! We are just supposed to move on from Super Bowl XL, but the Saints get one bad call and sue the league and now the poor Niners had rusty tackles and Kittle was out!?

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Re: Clowney NFC Defensive Player of the Week

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:12 pm

having their starting tackles back was a bad thing, go figure

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Re: Clowney NFC Defensive Player of the Week

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:17 pm

ThePro wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 1:58 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:39 am
The tackles were coming off 4 and 7 week lay-offs. And i think they were using a back-up center for at least part of the game. Don't know how their guards were doing.
So?

So........ you don't think the quality of blocking that Clowney was going up against should be considered in evaluating how well he played?

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Re: Clowney NFC Defensive Player of the Week

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:33 pm

sure, why not, the 49er offensive line is considered a good one

ranked 9th
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol/2019

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Re: Clowney NFC Defensive Player of the Week

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:42 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:05 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 11:39 am
The tackles were coming off 4 and 7 week lay-offs. And i think they were using a back-up center for at least part of the game. Don't know how their guards were doing.
It’s funny...not only am I hearing excuses for who the Niners didn’t have, but also the guys they had were rusty! We scored a TE with the only TE we had available...he was on the practice squad a few weeks ago. Our backup Center played the entire game, and is probably the smallest O Libeman to take the field that day. Our new Safety, who ,any credit as being a huge difference in the game, hadn’t played in how many weeks?

I’ve said it before, but why do excuses only work one way? One year, I heard all week how the red hot Redskins were going to beat us. With their backs to the wall they had rallied around the death of their starting Safety and a third string QB. Then, when we kicked their asses? They just couldn’t recover from the death of their safety and the third string QB stunk. You just can’t make this shit up! We are just supposed to move on from Super Bowl XL, but the Saints get one bad call and sue the league and now the poor Niners had rusty tackles and Kittle was out!?
I asked the question....
The only thing that you have to wonder is how much did the 49ers o-line situation have to do with Clowney's success?
Going 6 weeks into the season without being able to play or participate in practices seems to have effected Reed. And same thing with Ansah coming off the shoulder injury. Are those just excuses too? And then someone goes off and has a huge game the way Clowney did, but the only explanation we should consider is that he just decided to dial up the effort level? Give me a break.

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Re: Clowney NFC Defensive Player of the Week

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:49 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:33 pm
sure, why not, the 49er offensive line is considered a good one

ranked 9th
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol/2019
That's great. They have a good back-up LT but he didn't play on Monday, did he? No, they used a guy coming off a broken leg who hadn't played in 7 weeks. That's why i asked the question.

I don't see why that is less reasonable than the notion that having Diggs at safety totally changed how they were able to utilize the d-linemen.

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Re: Clowney NFC Defensive Player of the Week

Post by ThePro » Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:57 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
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having their starting tackles back was a bad thing, go figure

Joe Staley didn't forget how to play football and McGlinchey is a stud . I wanted Hawks to draft him.

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Re: Clowney NFC Defensive Player of the Week

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:04 pm

ThePro wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:57 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 2:12 pm
having their starting tackles back was a bad thing, go figure

Joe Staley didn't forget how to play football and McGlinchey is a stud . I wanted Hawks to draft him.
Apparently Ansah did, though.

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Re: Clowney NFC Defensive Player of the Week

Post by D-train » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:09 pm

ThePro wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:47 am
D-train wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:20 am
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:00 am
An interception return for a TD and a fumble return for a TD in one season. Not bad.

The only thing that you have to wonder is how much did the 49ers o-line situation have to do with Clowney's success?
I have been thinking about about him going from pretty good to one man wrecking crew and what all the factors were in that happening. Our D line, their O line and his motivation could all be factors, just wondering which is the biggest factor. Maybe Wagner just told him about the 49er rivalry. lol
Jake Heaps reiterated today that not only was the defensive approach totally different but it was due to the change at S.
That is fantastic news. btw I like Heaps. He doesn't feel the need to have a schtick like the other clowns like Danny O and the new idiot. Just be f-ing normal and talk sports. I hate spastics.
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Re: Clowney NFC Defensive Player of the Week

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Nov 14, 2019 4:11 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:49 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Nov 14, 2019 3:33 pm
sure, why not, the 49er offensive line is considered a good one

ranked 9th
https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/ol/2019
That's great. They have a good back-up LT but he didn't play on Monday, did he? No, they used a guy coming off a broken leg who hadn't played in 7 weeks. That's why i asked the question.

I don't see why that is less reasonable than the notion that having Diggs at safety totally changed how they were able to utilize the d-linemen.
I don't understand what you are getting at, they have been getting solid Oline play all season, they get their starting bookends tackles back and that suddenly makes their Oline a piece of crap? If they didn't expect to get as good or better production out of them why would they have used them? They were not just tossed out there, they have been practicing since they were deemed healthy to play. Your notion seems to be there should be some sort of asterisk on Clowney's being defensive player of the week, that the 9ers line was particularly bad, but i am really not seeing it

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