A Canadian story
A Canadian story
This guy bought a Nissan Leaf, it started giving him problems and turns out it needs a new battery. He's been waiting for a year.
But we're told that EVs are the future!
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/autos/news/hi ... ecea5&ei=8
But we're told that EVs are the future!
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/autos/news/hi ... ecea5&ei=8
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Re: A Canadian story
Getting ready for the horse
and buggy days?
and buggy days?
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The Leaf is a dinosaur. It was one of the original electric cars but it's been out of production for years. That it's hard to find a battery for it doesn't seem that far fetched. Those batteries should rarely fail so I imagine not a lot of stockpiling. What's interesting, it's still being under warranty. The driver gets a loaner car and gas fees remburstment for the entire period.
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Dinosaur.....is that a so-called fossil fuel pun ? So-called because the description of oil as coming from fossils is a lie that was developed to imply scarcity...and thus pricing leverage. And look how widely it is used. Remember "peak" oil in the 70's ?And we've managed to turn the 3 letter word 'oil' into a 4 letter cultural evil, despite the fact that 'this gift from God' underwrites our material existence. I think I'll go out and smear paint on a priceless work of art in a museum to show the world how messed up they/we/he/she/ them/ they are to consume.....oil.
The great thing about the Leaf story is how the owner, acting out of whatever motivation, is in step with the 'decided aims of Ottawa. And his tax dollars no matter how difficult to obtain are subsidizing in the tens of billions the entire EV infrastructure for Canunckland. Command and control socialism at its finest.
Oh, and Canada has upwards of (at current consumption rates) 200 years of petroleum reserves, 300 years of natural gas and coal 150 years.
Trudeau is driven around in a gas guzzler. Hes flown around in a gas guzzler. Ottawa government is the largest consumer of fuel in Ontario.
But the god of the environment requires the sacrifice of the Canadian household. Essentially, paying the government so one can live on less and less every day.
Time to turn a new 'leaf'.
The great thing about the Leaf story is how the owner, acting out of whatever motivation, is in step with the 'decided aims of Ottawa. And his tax dollars no matter how difficult to obtain are subsidizing in the tens of billions the entire EV infrastructure for Canunckland. Command and control socialism at its finest.
Oh, and Canada has upwards of (at current consumption rates) 200 years of petroleum reserves, 300 years of natural gas and coal 150 years.
Trudeau is driven around in a gas guzzler. Hes flown around in a gas guzzler. Ottawa government is the largest consumer of fuel in Ontario.
But the god of the environment requires the sacrifice of the Canadian household. Essentially, paying the government so one can live on less and less every day.
Time to turn a new 'leaf'.
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Good catch on the dinosaur pun thing, I wasn't thinking it. Like the Ottowa government doesn't subsidize the oil and gas industry?
I doubt Ottowa is subsidizing EVs anywhere close to thatCanada’s federal government has committed more than $15 billion in public money to the oil and gas industry so far in 2022
Re: A Canadian story
He's got a loaner car, sure, but the article states that, "One year later, Harooni's still driving a courtesy rental car and paying out of pocket for gas while his Nissan Leaf sits in the parking lot of the dealership." Where is he being reimbursed for fuel?Donn Beach wrote: ↑Sat Dec 23, 2023 10:22 amThe Leaf is a dinosaur. It was one of the original electric cars but it's been out of production for years. That it's hard to find a battery for it doesn't seem that far fetched. Those batteries should rarely fail so I imagine not a lot of stockpiling. What's interesting, it's still being under warranty. The driver gets a loaner car and gas fees remburstment for the entire period.
And isn't it interesting that the automaker (Nissan) is experiencing 'global supply chain shortages'? Is that due to the inability to burn enough fossil fuels to mine the lithium that is required to build the batteries? It's a complete farce.
And Mel is correct in saying, "Oh, and Canada has upwards of (at current consumption rates) 200 years of petroleum reserves, 300 years of natural gas and coal 150 years. Trudeau is driven around in a gas guzzler. Hes flown around in a gas guzzler. Ottawa government is the largest consumer of fuel in Ontario. But the god of the environment requires the sacrifice of the Canadian household. Essentially, paying the government so one can live on less and less every day."
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It's in the article
From the article
It might get termed that way but I don't believe the issue is global supply chain shortages. I think the issue is Nissan relying on a 3rd party suppler that quit making the batteryJazouli said Nissan Canada is planning to provide Harooni with a "fuel reimbursement expense" and is working on possible buy-back options at Harooni's request.
From the article
Dimitry Anastakis, a business an history professor at the University of Toronto who's written several books on the automotive industry, said it's a challenge for Nissan to source a battery originally produced by a third-party supplier for a car that's been out of production for years, because the battery is no longer being produced and there are few available on the replacement market.
This is particularly the case for the Nissan Leaf, he said, because it was a "pioneer" in the electric vehicle market, and the batteries used for older models have been replaced by newer ones that aren't necessarily compatible.
"The reason that it's hard to get this gentleman a new battery is because he's got one of the very first electric vehicles and there's not a lot of these batteries kicking around," Anastakis said.
"There weren't a lot of them made, and at this stage of the game, that's a technology from 2017 that Nissan and its partners have really moved on from."
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Wow 6 years later and it's already obsolete. EV's sound like a great investment!
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I’ve heard it would be impossible to switch everyone over to EV unless the population was drastically reduced. I personally look at the EV as part of big tech so I definitely have an aversion. I don’t want my car on the smart grid.
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Correction: Canada has not pledged billions for EV infrastructure. Its in the single digits.
Canada has pledged billions over the next decade for clean energy which includes subsidies for infrastructure and credits for green development.
While big oil receives roughly 15 billion in subsidies, they pay to the treasury 3 times that in taxes and royalties. Corporate self interest V. The monopoly on force (big gov). And then we find out they sing from the same hymnal.
Net Zero goal by 2050. The optimistic side of Karl Marx. It comes with an army of regulators to enforce itself. The media role to project fear, shame and social responsibility. The corporate role is subsidies and virtue signalling for the central government. "We can have the best life ever if we surrender property, freedom, our children and any sense of political autonomy/ unity outside the goals of the "enlightenment" leaders".
Canada has pledged billions over the next decade for clean energy which includes subsidies for infrastructure and credits for green development.
While big oil receives roughly 15 billion in subsidies, they pay to the treasury 3 times that in taxes and royalties. Corporate self interest V. The monopoly on force (big gov). And then we find out they sing from the same hymnal.
Net Zero goal by 2050. The optimistic side of Karl Marx. It comes with an army of regulators to enforce itself. The media role to project fear, shame and social responsibility. The corporate role is subsidies and virtue signalling for the central government. "We can have the best life ever if we surrender property, freedom, our children and any sense of political autonomy/ unity outside the goals of the "enlightenment" leaders".