OT - 2024 Playoffs

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Re: OT - 2024 Playoffs

Post by 57reasons » Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:05 am

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
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Biggest playoff chokers of the past decade...

1. Dallas
2. Buffalo
3. Tennesee
4. Seattle
5. ???
If you go by all time, Buffalo is number one by a mile, what with the 4 straight SB losses!
For # 5 in your list you might consider Atlanta, whose SB50 meltdown probably exceeded our goal line failure in SB49.

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Re: OT - 2024 Playoffs

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:16 am

Well, i was thinking mainly of teams that have underperformed. Buffalo was expected to lose all those SBs except maybe vs the Giants so i wouldn't describe them as "chokers".

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Re: OT - 2024 Playoffs

Post by ddraig » Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:08 am

I think Buffalo would have won tonight if Allen was able to play the entire game.

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Re: OT - 2024 Playoffs

Post by Michael K. » Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:13 am

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Really dumb that the playoff picks are worth less than most of the reg. season picks. The should have started at 16 and gone down from there. Maybe I could have changed it?
I actually liked it. Seems crazy to assign 16 points to games between such evenly matched opponents. I think last year it was 16, 12, 8 and 4 this round, or something like that. The Super Bowl was like a 2 point spread and we had to put 16 on the winner!

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Re: OT - 2024 Playoffs

Post by D-train » Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:09 am

trharder wrote:
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Why TF do you go for two there?
Because it objectively and mathematically improves your probabilities of winning. Which is actually more important than subjective fan sentiment and pre conceived notions and emotionally based assessments of what should be done.
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Re: OT - 2024 Playoffs

Post by D-train » Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:11 am

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
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Well, i was thinking mainly of teams that have underperformed. Buffalo was expected to lose all those SBs except maybe vs the Giants so i wouldn't describe them as "chokers".
Norwood choked.
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Re: OT - 2024 Playoffs

Post by D-train » Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:12 am

Michael K. wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:13 am
D-train wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:54 pm
Really dumb that the playoff picks are worth less than most of the reg. season picks. The should have started at 16 and gone down from there. Maybe I could have changed it?
I actually liked it. Seems crazy to assign 16 points to games between such evenly matched opponents. I think last year it was 16, 12, 8 and 4 this round, or something like that. The Super Bowl was like a 2 point spread and we had to put 16 on the winner!
The SF and Ravens spreads were huge and the Lions was 6.5 I believe. Only close one was last night.
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Re: OT - 2024 Playoffs

Post by Michael K. » Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:36 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:12 am
Michael K. wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:13 am
D-train wrote:
Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:54 pm
Really dumb that the playoff picks are worth less than most of the reg. season picks. The should have started at 16 and gone down from there. Maybe I could have changed it?
I actually liked it. Seems crazy to assign 16 points to games between such evenly matched opponents. I think last year it was 16, 12, 8 and 4 this round, or something like that. The Super Bowl was like a 2 point spread and we had to put 16 on the winner!
The SF and Ravens spreads were huge and the Lions was 6.5 I believe. Only close one was last night.
The Niner game wasn't close? I get what you are saying, but playoff games are between the best of the best. Vegas thought the Niners would kill the Packers. Don't go for it on fourth and make the FG and the Pack wins that one going away. A big point spread in the playoffs, IMO, isn't worth sixteen points in a pool.

Not to mention, there have only been about three games all off season that anyone chose differently, so sixteen points or sixteen thousand? What's the difference?

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Re: OT - 2024 Playoffs

Post by D-train » Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:41 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:36 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2024 11:12 am
Michael K. wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2024 6:13 am


I actually liked it. Seems crazy to assign 16 points to games between such evenly matched opponents. I think last year it was 16, 12, 8 and 4 this round, or something like that. The Super Bowl was like a 2 point spread and we had to put 16 on the winner!
The SF and Ravens spreads were huge and the Lions was 6.5 I believe. Only close one was last night.
The Niner game wasn't close? I get what you are saying, but playoff games are between the best of the best. Vegas thought the Niners would kill the Packers. Don't go for it on fourth and make the FG and the Pack wins that one going away. A big point spread in the playoffs, IMO, isn't worth sixteen points in a pool.

Not to mention, there have only been about three games all off season that anyone chose differently, so sixteen points or sixteen thousand? What's the difference?
Yes the best of the best and seems odd to have minimal points for getting them right vs. Getting 16 points for picking the Ravens over the Jets in Baltimore in week 3.
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Re: OT - 2024 Playoffs

Post by Michael K. » Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:46 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Jan 22, 2024 4:41 pm

Yes the best of the best and seems odd to have minimal points for getting them right vs. Getting 16 points for picking the Ravens over the Jets in Baltimore in week 3.
Assigning points is based on games played. No option but to have a big point total in the regular season. Again, I am confused why it matters? It's not like you are competing against others that get the option of assigning more points. Seems odd that during the regular season you don't have to assign big points to close games but come playoff time it would then be required. But, again, would it really matter? Haven't the last two weeks been separated by like a point or two? The number of games predicted wouldn't matter.

Imagine winning the regular season by 15 points, and then being totally even during the playoffs, then losing the overall because the Super Bowl was worth sixteen points and you lost on a missed last second FG? If the points are rolling up every week, including the playoffs? Changing the format seems odd.

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