Garver getting death threats

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Re: Garver getting death threats

Post by bpj » Sat Aug 03, 2024 4:59 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:56 am
mostonmike wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 4:47 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 3:43 pm
If someone wanted to kill someone, why would they warn them with a threat first?
The IRA often used to issue coded warnings before terrorist attacks on Mainland Britain. It would sound like I was defending them if I said they were aware they were going to cause casualties but warning police would minimise the death tolls. An attack that killed hundreds instead of a few would have damaged their overall political cause.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/code ... 75779.html
Here, the Philippines it happens that way all the time, a death threat followed by an attack. A motorcycle with a back rider gunman, helmets that cover their faces. In fact a friend of mine, a prosecutor was first given threats and then gunned down that way. Believe you are given a chance to run.
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Re: Garver getting death threats

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Aug 03, 2024 7:08 am

Some of the places I have lived, yeah. This like an analogy thing? Hey, I don't have anything against walls. They have a purpose, mostly psychological. I don't agree with them being offered as a solution to immigration issues.

Hey, on another note, did you see this? ... that's funny

Max Buck, isn't that a cartoon character? Who repeatedly accused Trump of being a foreign asset, wife as now been indicted for.... yes you guessed it, being a foreign asset!

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... n-00172298

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Re: Garver getting death threats

Post by bpj » Sat Aug 03, 2024 7:56 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2024 7:08 am
Some of the places I have lived, yeah. This like an analogy thing? Hey, I don't have anything against walls. They have a purpose, mostly psychological. I don't agree with them being offered as a solution to immigration issues.

Hey, on another note, did you see this? ... that's funny

Max Buck, isn't that a cartoon character? Who repeatedly accused Trump of being a foreign asset, wife as now been indicted for.... yes you guessed it, being a foreign asset!

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... n-00172298
Why do you not agree with them being offered as a solution to immigration issues?

Seems like a lot of people disagree with you, especially those actually at the border.

https://www.12news.com/article/news/453 ... 646ebc7674

Yes, I did see that. All dumbass libs are eventually outed for what they are. Either liars, or stupid. Or both in most cases.

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Re: Garver getting death threats

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:14 pm

Because it's not a solution, again walls have a purpose but believing building a wall will solve the illegal immigration issues is simplistic and wrong. Trump contends it was built and it hasn't solved anything. There were already walls along the border. Most of the distance of the new wall already had previous ones. Folks love a simple answer but it's really not solving anything. You realize nearly half of illegal immigrants consist of visa overstays. What does a wall do to solve that?

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Re: Garver getting death threats

Post by D-train » Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:33 pm

I am sure those that made the "death threats" now realize after reading all the anti death threat posts that death threats are bad and will never do it again. Before they assumed death threats were perfectly fine and they were just ignorant of the fact that they are typically frowned upon....
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Re: Garver getting death threats

Post by Millikin » Sat Aug 03, 2024 4:26 pm

Wait are we saying we need to build a wall around Garver?

99.9% of internet "death threats" are anonymous hyperbolic kids trying to be dark and edgy. It's the same dummies who carve swastikas on bathroom stalls. They're not actual assassins and/or nazis.
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Re: Garver getting death threats

Post by mostonmike » Sat Aug 03, 2024 5:05 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:33 pm
I am sure those that made the "death threats" now realize after reading all the anti death threat posts that death threats are bad and will never do it again. Before they assumed death threats were perfectly fine and they were just ignorant of the fact that they are typically frowned upon....
What if the “death threats” result in a massive turnaround in Garver’s performances? What if he suddenly sparks into life and reaches the Mendoza line? That would mean that death threats could be perceived in some quarters to be good thing that should not be underestimated as a tactic. We would obviously re-iterate the general disapproval of these methods, but the pro-death threat contingent will have significant data showing that death threats do work. We need him to remain shite or even go worse, to avoid proving death threats are a good thing.

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Re: Garver getting death threats

Post by GL_Storm » Sat Aug 03, 2024 6:21 pm

mostonmike wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2024 5:05 pm
D-train wrote:
Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:33 pm
I am sure those that made the "death threats" now realize after reading all the anti death threat posts that death threats are bad and will never do it again. Before they assumed death threats were perfectly fine and they were just ignorant of the fact that they are typically frowned upon....
What if the “death threats” result in a massive turnaround in Garver’s performances? What if he suddenly sparks into life and reaches the Mendoza line? That would mean that death threats could be perceived in some quarters to be good thing that should not be underestimated as a tactic. We would obviously re-iterate the general disapproval of these methods, but the pro-death threat contingent will have significant data showing that death threats do work. We need him to remain shite or even go worse, to avoid proving death threats are a good thing.
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Re: Garver getting death threats

Post by D-train » Sat Aug 03, 2024 6:48 pm

We got a live one! lol
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Re: Garver getting death threats

Post by Walla Walla Dawg II » Sat Aug 03, 2024 11:08 pm

Big_Maple wrote:
Fri Aug 02, 2024 6:20 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
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Obviously people sending death threats are losers. No place for that.

As an athlete making $12 million a year to utterly fail at your job, you gotta develop a thicker skin or take steps to block communication from fans if you can't.

Suck it up, tell fans you're going to be better, and figure it out.
I agree with this, SoB. He plays a game for a living, and his salary is ostensibly paid by the fans. He is accountable to himself, the team, the franchise and the fan base. He is paid a lot of money to basically do one job, and he’s not doing it very well. So he can expect jeers and boos and social media outrage. Develop thick skin, then focus on getting better.

That said - here are my other thoughts:

1. Death threats are never acceptable. Ever. And they are increasingly common these days, particularly in civil and political discourse. Our first amendment guarantees your right to disagree with someone, but it does not allow you to yell “fire” in a crowded theater - nor to extend credible threats on another person’s life. It is an illegal act of cowardice.

2. Mitch Garver has at least one child. As soon as someone threatens his life, they are by extension threatening his family’s lives. I don’t blame him for going public with it.

3. It is his right to go public and out the cowards. To stay silent is to normalize the behavior.

4. It’s a fucking game for crying out loud. Who takes this so seriously that they would threaten someone else’s life just because they can’t hit a ball with a stick. I can get frothy about the M’s now and the n, but I can’t wrap my head around being so worked up that you threaten someone’s life. WTF?
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