Division title and WC spot probabilities

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Re: Division title and WC spot probabilities

Post by Seattle or Bust » Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:26 pm

In the modern era, and non-covid years...

The M's .215 batting average is only worse than the 1968 New York Yankees who hit .214.

Since 1963, only 4 teams (including the M's) have hit for below a .220 BA.

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Re: Division title and WC spot probabilities

Post by D-train » Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:40 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:26 pm
In the modern era, and non-covid years...

The M's .215 batting average is only worse than the 1968 New York Yankees who hit .214.

Since 1963, only 4 teams (including the M's) have hit for below a .220 BA.
And Jarred Dehart has been the hitting coach for SIX seasons.
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Re: Division title and WC spot probabilities

Post by Pharmabro » Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:04 am

We are now tied with Tamps for 6.5 back in the WC. KC has the last WC and has a .556 winning percentage =90.72 wins. Say we could get in with 91. (35 games to go and we are 64-63.) That means they would have to go 27-8 .771 winning %?

How about the division? Houston's .544 winning rate is at a target of 88.128 wins. Target 89 and and a wins the M's would have to go 25-10. That is a 71% rate.WTF haven't I heard about a player's only meeting. A closed door meeting. Nothing?

Can it be done? Sure the 2001 Squad started out 4-2and then went on a 43-10 run. That is a .811 win percentage. That team had a 118 OPS+ and a 117 ERA+ in Safeco as the home park. That stretch had win streaks of 3,4,8,9,15, and only 2 losing streaks each was just 2.
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Re: Division title and WC spot probabilities

Post by toboggan » Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:10 am

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Re: Division title and WC spot probabilities

Post by Millikin » Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:49 am

The thing about the 24 Mariners is even when they had a giant lead in the AL West, they were still barely in the wildcard race.

There was a short period (like a few days) where the Mariners weren't the worst division leader based on win percentage and also had a good enough winning percentage to be in the top 3 of the wildcard standings.

So, if not for the Astros sucking early in the season, our high point this year would have been a few days where we were above the line for a wildcard spot
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Re: Division title and WC spot probabilities

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:58 am

D-train wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:40 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:26 pm
In the modern era, and non-covid years...

The M's .215 batting average is only worse than the 1968 New York Yankees who hit .214.

Since 1963, only 4 teams (including the M's) have hit for below a .220 BA.
And Jarred Dehart has been the hitting coach for SIX seasons.
I'm beginning to think that there is a "HEX" in the organization.

The M's could go out and trade ALL of their top pitching for the best world class lineup and it would still struggle to manufacture runs. Something is off. Way off. And no one can pinpoint to what that is.

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Re: Division title and WC spot probabilities

Post by Pharmabro » Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:09 am

Did you know the 2024 Mariners have several of their biggest winning streaks "4 game winning "streaks"" :roll: , but have out done them by losing 5 in a row now twice .

Worse than that they have lost too many series against losers. Mid June they were 13 over .500 and had played "contenders in a vast majority of their games. Since then:
Lost series to:
OK= Cle, Minny, Houston, Bos, LAD

Not Miami, TBR, Tor.,(Lost 6/7 to LAA)(Lost5/6 to Detroit)2/3 to Pit,

Good Swept Padres, NYM (5) CWS(3)
Beat Phili 2/3

That shit show. Losing 13/17 series and 8 against losing clubs at under strength. I have not been on board with fire SS until now.

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Re: Division title and WC spot probabilities

Post by Southpaw773 » Wed Aug 21, 2024 7:15 am

Vegas odds are in the negatives

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Re: Division title and WC spot probabilities

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Aug 21, 2024 8:04 am

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:58 am
D-train wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:40 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Tue Aug 20, 2024 6:26 pm
In the modern era, and non-covid years...

The M's .215 batting average is only worse than the 1968 New York Yankees who hit .214.

Since 1963, only 4 teams (including the M's) have hit for below a .220 BA.
And Jarred Dehart has been the hitting coach for SIX seasons.
I'm beginning to think that there is a "HEX" in the organization.

The M's could go out and trade ALL of their top pitching for the best world class lineup and it would still struggle to manufacture runs. Something is off. Way off. And no one can pinpoint to what that is.
Yeah, i dont like the idea of throwing prospects at the at the issues at the deadline, should be delt with over the off season, particularly if it starts with canning the manager

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Re: Division title and WC spot probabilities

Post by D-train » Wed Aug 21, 2024 1:06 pm

Pharmabro wrote:
Wed Aug 21, 2024 6:04 am
We are now tied with Tamps for 6.5 back in the WC. KC has the last WC and has a .556 winning percentage =90.72 wins. Say we could get in with 91. (35 games to go and we are 64-63.) That means they would have to go 27-8 .771 winning %?

How about the division? Houston's .544 winning rate is at a target of 88.128 wins. Target 89 and and a wins the M's would have to go 25-10. That is a 71% rate.WTF haven't I heard about a player's only meeting. A closed door meeting. Nothing?

Can it be done? Sure the 2001 Squad started out 4-2and then went on a 43-10 run. That is a .811 win percentage. That team had a 118 OPS+ and a 117 ERA+ in Safeco as the home park. That stretch had win streaks of 3,4,8,9,15, and only 2 losing streaks each was just 2.
Comparing the 2001 team to this team is like comparing Keira Knightley's face to Lizzo's ass.
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