Another writer calling for Jerry's head

[Hy Feiber]

Yes your hindsight is off the charts. Most of us applauded the 140 OPS+ bat Winker brought and Saurez was a bounce back salary dump.
Polanco, and Ray. I remember a majority of us (vastly so) counted them as good moves.

I can't stand people who look at moves at the time and go "We signed the reigning CY"! Fk, yes! And then a ho-hum 1st year followed by a injury and "The Great Leader~Cap" comes on-line and makes his little gay list and proclaims he is better and smarter and all the trades he would have made would have worked out! I would have signed only guys that would have thrived. "I Cap would have graped Billy B into trading his top 10 hitter to his division rival"! You bet ya. "I am Captain I know who fails and thrives and develops ahead of time I have a set of crystal balls between my legs that I rub and they give me insights into all future events" "I am the Alpha and the Omega, I am Cap, hear me roar."

Cut the Cap!

I can't stand people that make excuses for a guy that makes MILLIONS to build a winning roster and has completely failed time and time again. Every single move other than the JK trade was flawed and needed hopes and prayers to work out.

Raley: His best addition and they don't even let him hit vs. lefties had a cold second half last season.

Polanco: Injury prone and erratic

Garver: If you squint you can kind of understand Garver given his OPS in 2023. But so many red flags

1. Always Hurt
2. Getting long in the tooth
3. Hit in an amazing lineup
4. 0-32 at T Mobile (now 20-173, .118 BA)

Haniger: Expecting him to be a key contributor was asinine.

Vargas/Seby: Good God, Helen Keller could see that shit show coming. Worst pitcher in AAA last season and a dogshit negative WAR BU catcher for a league average 3B

Urias: Negative WAR clown that was ok two years ago

Epic Fail.....again.

He didn’t build a dumb stadium that kills hitters.

None of these geniuses that think they are smart calling out every failed player as a dumb decision and thought they would made the right choice is dumb.

I recall you and Anthony being pumped up on Ray the reigning CY signing. But now two year later I look at some Monday Morning QB callling it out as dumb. I remember my thoughts were basically ha had a couple of CY type years a good TOR type and then some not so good years. When I look back at so many of these moves I remember supporting 2B Wong I was like He has been a 105-110 guy the last few years. Contract year maybe he has another “Up” year. I was fairly high on Saurez having a rebound and I was high on the 140’s OPS+ Winker had coming in. Garver is a guy I thought we might try to get from Minny. I had no expectations for Mike Ford. I thought about the prospect status of Robles but thought of it as a lotto ticket. I was up on Teo and he did have a 107 OPS+ which was disappointing but he still but up 20+ with 93 RBI.

The problem was never Scott, DeHart, JD. The fault is listening to 20+ years of hitters telling you how much they hate hitting at Safe KO’d shitters park. Remember how Beltre put up over 9 WAR 163 OPS+ with (48 bombs League #1)the year before and then ages 26-30 with us he maxed out at a 112 OPS+ with us and then put up a 141 OPS+ at age 31 in Boston and was #1 with 49 doubles 7.8 WAR

In both years he was a top 10 MVP vote guy and in none of his Seattle years was awarded with a MVP vote at all. Beltre was a 93 WAR guy who was a 1st ballot HOFer. Yet, he got Safe KO’d

I was pretty impressed that they got him but why has it taken over 20 years of BS and that organization has done nothing to fix the main reason the M’s are a f-ing laughing stock.

That is what these brave lil boy wonder writers need to be smashing into the faces of Mariner organizational types.


Fix the problem don’t fire arrows at the deck chairs on the Titanic

And I almost forgot:

Cut the Cap!

Ms won 116 in that “dumb stadium,” by the way.

Was there no marine layer then?

[Michael K.]

I always love the debate of “we all loved the move a the time”. We also don’t have the same information that Jerry does, nor are we paid millions of dollars to get results. As was mentioned, even Jack Z put above average offenses on the field in this stadium. And wasn’t that before they moved the fence in!?

Just off results he needs to be fired. But the more and more it appears the players hate him? What keeps him here besides stupidity and profit margins?

[bhofferb]

Don’t remember who originally posted this, but it clearly shows Jerry can’t pick winners. Here’s how he opted to spend on free agents:

2016:
Aoki $5.5M
Lind $8M
Miley $6M
Seth Smith $6.75M
Iannetta $4.25M
Cishek $4M
Benoit $8M
TOTAL: $42.5M
As % of Payroll: 29.86%
Total WAR: 3.0
$/WAR: $14.17M

2017:
Gallardo $9M
Smyly $6.85M
Cishek $6M
Valencia $5.5M
Rzepczynski $5.5M
Ruiz $4.5M
TOTAL: $37.35M
As % of Payroll: 24.2%
Total WAR: -0.3
$/WAR: error

2018:
Gordon $10.8M
Nicasio $7.75M
David Phelps $5.5M
Rzepczynski $5.5M
TOTAL: $29.6M
As % of Payroll: 18.75%
Total WAR: 0.5
$/WAR: $59.2M

2019:
Gordon $13.3M
Kikuchi $9.5M
TOTAL: $22.8M
As % of Payroll: 15.56%
Total WAR: 0.7
$/WAR: $32.57M

2020:
Kikuchi $16M
Gordon $13.74M
Mallex Smith $2.35M
TOTAL: $32M
Short season

2021:
Kikuchi $16.5M
Paxton $8.5M
Montero $2.25M
TOTAL: $27.25M
As % of Payroll: 37.12%
Total WAR: 1.4
$/WAR: $19.46M

2022:
Frazier $8M
Winker $6.75M
Giles $5.25M
Romo $2M
White $1.4M
TOTAL: $23.4M
As % of Payroll: 22.52%
Total WAR: 0.9
$/WAR: $26M

From this group of players, over 6 years (covid pass for 2020), these players accumulated 6.2 WAR for a cost of $182.9M, good for a $/WAR cost of $29.5M

In a market where they estimate one WAR is worth ~$8M on the free agent market, Dipoto paid $29.5M/WAR for these bums.

And got a promotion.

[Captain 97]

Yes your hindsight is off the charts. Most of us applauded the 140 OPS+ bat Winker brought and Saurez was a bounce back salary dump.
Polanco, and Ray. I remember a majority of us (vastly so) counted them as good moves.

I can't stand people who look at moves at the time and go "We signed the reigning CY"! Fk, yes! And then a ho-hum 1st year followed by a injury and "The Great Leader~Cap" comes on-line and makes his little gay list and proclaims he is better and smarter and all the trades he would have made would have worked out! I would have signed only guys that would have thrived. "I Cap would have graped Billy B into trading his top 10 hitter to his division rival"! You bet ya. "I am Captain I know who fails and thrives and develops ahead of time I have a set of crystal balls between my legs that I rub and they give me insights into all future events" "I am the Alpha and the Omega, I am Cap, hear me roar."

Cut the Cap!

Thats all you got for a comeback?
Name Calling? LOL

Lets see the list of moves that worked out.

Hind sight is the only way that any GM is ever evaluated. You don't get to to screw up 95% of the time and keep your job because it had the potential to work.

You are are dumb JD doesn’t fail 95% of the time acquisitions are about 1/3 1/3 1/3

More Name calling. How original.
Still waiting on your list of the great moves that Jerry has made. Should be easy if 1/3 of them are good.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

Thats all you got for a comeback?
Name Calling? LOL

Lets see the list of moves that worked out.

Hind sight is the only way that any GM is ever evaluated. You don't get to to screw up 95% of the time and keep your job because it had the potential to work.

You are are dumb JD doesn’t fail 95% of the time acquisitions are about 1/3 1/3 1/3

More Name calling. How original.
Still waiting on your list of the great moves that Jerry has made. Should be easy if 1/3 of them are good.

He fired Scott S.

[Pharmabro]

I always love the debate of “we all loved the move a the time”. We also don’t have the same information that Jerry does, nor are we paid millions of dollars to get results. As was mentioned, even Jack Z put above average offenses on the field in this stadium. And wasn’t that before they moved the fence in!?

Just off results he needs to be fired. But the more and more it appears the players hate him? What keeps him here besides stupidity and profit margins?

2023 108 OPS+
2022 106 OPS+
2021 92 OPS+
2020 90
2019 99
2018 102
2017 103
2016 106

And 2019 - 2021 were the step-back years which you kinda want to lose and get at least a few chances at the best prospects.
Every year they have been trying to compete they have ended the year with an above average offense. You're making a bunch of sweeping BS statements about stuff you clearly stated you are not an expert at.

[Michael K.]

Has he NEVER put together an above average offense? I guess never is too strong of a word...but you have watched this team after the "rebuild" and thought he did all he possibly could to develop an offense? Just LOOK at the money spent on the names above and tell me THAT is the person you want in charge of rebuilding this offense yet again?

I noticed you haven't bothered to answer any of those posts, showing pathetic move after pathetic move. Good job pointing out that I was wrong and a few times in 9 years Jerry put an above average offense out there. How fantastic. Let's give him 9 more fucking years then.

[D-train]

I always love the debate of “we all loved the move a the time”. We also don’t have the same information that Jerry does, nor are we paid millions of dollars to get results. As was mentioned, even Jack Z put above average offenses on the field in this stadium. And wasn’t that before they moved the fence in!?

Just off results he needs to be fired. But the more and more it appears the players hate him? What keeps him here besides stupidity and profit margins?

2023 108 OPS+
2022 106 OPS+
2021 92 OPS+
2020 90
2019 99
2018 102
2017 103
2016 106

And 2019 - 2021 were the step-back years which you kinda want to lose and get at least a few chances at the best prospects.
Every year they have been trying to compete they have ended the year with an above average offense. You're making a bunch of sweeping BS statements about stuff you clearly stated you are not an expert at.

Dude you currently live on a desert island with a population of one. You better start looking for a volleyball. And when you find it, instead of Wilson you should name it Jerry. Lol

[bpj]

I always love the debate of “we all loved the move a the time”. We also don’t have the same information that Jerry does, nor are we paid millions of dollars to get results. As was mentioned, even Jack Z put above average offenses on the field in this stadium. And wasn’t that before they moved the fence in!?

Just off results he needs to be fired. But the more and more it appears the players hate him? What keeps him here besides stupidity and profit margins?

2023 108 OPS+
2022 106 OPS+
2021 92 OPS+
2020 90
2019 99
2018 102
2017 103
2016 106

And 2019 - 2021 were the step-back years which you kinda want to lose and get at least a few chances at the best prospects.
Every year they have been trying to compete they have ended the year with an above average offense. You're making a bunch of sweeping BS statements about stuff you clearly stated you are not an expert at.

2021 is another indictment on Jerry's record. He failed to recognize in time that they could (and should have) make the playoffs.

They finished 2 games out of the Wild Card spot, but instead of getting better at the deadline, they traded off Graveman and kept giving losers at bats.

[Pharmabro]

Ownership could have given him more but in no way shape or form has he done the best with the money he has.

Ownership didn't make him Give Evan White a Guarenteed Major League Contract before he was even out of AA
Ownership didn't make him Give a long term deal to Marco Gonzalez.
Ownership didn't make him trade for Adam Frazier and Jessee Winker.
Ownership didn't make him give Julio a lifetime contract after 3 Months of good baseball.
Ownership didn't make him Sign Robby Ray and trade him for Mitch Hanniger.
Ownership didn't make him spend 108 Million on Castillo who is essentially your 5th best starter at this point.
Ownership didn't make him trade for Teoscar Hernadez.
Ownership didn't make him spend 24 Million on Garver.
Ownership didn't make him trade Eugenio Suarez and replace him with Luis Urias
Ownership didn't make him trade for Polanco

He has not used his resources wisely at all. They have four top of the rotation starters that are making a combined 6.3 Million They have a top 10 Bullpen that make a combined 8.4 Million. There opening day payroll was 139 Million which leaves 124 Million for the the offense and 5th starter. Any competent gm could put together a league average offense and find a serviceable 5th starter for 124 Million. Dipoto is not a competent gm.

Yes your hindsight is off the charts. Most of us applauded the 140 OPS+ bat Winker brought and Saurez was a bounce back salary dump.
Polanco, and Ray. I remember a majority of us (vastly so) counted them as good moves.

I can't stand people who look at moves at the time and go "We signed the reigning CY"! Fk, yes! And then a ho-hum 1st year followed by a injury and "The Great Leader~Cap" comes on-line and makes his little gay list and proclaims he is better and smarter and all the trades he would have made would have worked out! I would have signed only guys that would have thrived. "I Cap would have graped Billy B into trading his top 10 hitter to his division rival"! You bet ya. "I am Captain I know who fails and thrives and develops ahead of time I have a set of crystal balls between my legs that I rub and they give me insights into all future events" "I am the Alpha and the Omega, I am Cap, hear me roar."

Cut the Cap!

Thats all you got for a comeback?
Name Calling? LOL

Lets see the list of moves that worked out.

Hind sight is the only way that any GM is ever evaluated. You don't get to to screw up 95% of the time and keep your job because it had the potential to work.

He does not "screw up 95% of the time". That is your emotional and non objective statement. I have identified the ballpark as the main and most important factor. Ump bias plays a part as well.

So yes, Cut the Cap!