Another writer calling for Jerry's head

[Captain 97]

Yes your hindsight is off the charts. Most of us applauded the 140 OPS+ bat Winker brought and Saurez was a bounce back salary dump.
Polanco, and Ray. I remember a majority of us (vastly so) counted them as good moves.

I can't stand people who look at moves at the time and go "We signed the reigning CY"! Fk, yes! And then a ho-hum 1st year followed by a injury and "The Great Leader~Cap" comes on-line and makes his little gay list and proclaims he is better and smarter and all the trades he would have made would have worked out! I would have signed only guys that would have thrived. "I Cap would have graped Billy B into trading his top 10 hitter to his division rival"! You bet ya. "I am Captain I know who fails and thrives and develops ahead of time I have a set of crystal balls between my legs that I rub and they give me insights into all future events" "I am the Alpha and the Omega, I am Cap, hear me roar."

Cut the Cap!

Thats all you got for a comeback?
Name Calling? LOL

Lets see the list of moves that worked out.

Hind sight is the only way that any GM is ever evaluated. You don't get to to screw up 95% of the time and keep your job because it had the potential to work.

He does not "screw up 95% of the time". That is your emotional and non objective statement. I have identified the ballpark as the main and most important factor. Ump bias plays a part as well.

So yes, Cut the Cap!

Still waiting for the list of good moves that shows a 1/3 success rate......
Its not coming because it doesn't exist. 95% failure rate on trades and FA acquisitions go ahead and prove me wrong.

[D-train]

I always love the debate of “we all loved the move a the time”. We also don’t have the same information that Jerry does, nor are we paid millions of dollars to get results. As was mentioned, even Jack Z put above average offenses on the field in this stadium. And wasn’t that before they moved the fence in!?

Just off results he needs to be fired. But the more and more it appears the players hate him? What keeps him here besides stupidity and profit margins?

2023 108 OPS+
2022 106 OPS+
2021 92 OPS+
2020 90
2019 99
2018 102
2017 103
2016 106

And 2019 - 2021 were the step-back years which you kinda want to lose and get at least a few chances at the best prospects.
Every year they have been trying to compete they have ended the year with an above average offense. You're making a bunch of sweeping BS statements about stuff you clearly stated you are not an expert at.

2021 is another indictment on Jerry's record. He failed to recognize in time that they could (and should have) make the playoffs.

They finished 2 games out of the Wild Card spot, but instead of getting better at the deadline, they traded off Graveman and kept giving losers at bats.

Not to mention they finished 2020 20-14, a 95 win pace and he decided to slow play it and didn't add shit in that off season and we barely miss as usual.

[bpj]

Thats all you got for a comeback?
Name Calling? LOL

Lets see the list of moves that worked out.

Hind sight is the only way that any GM is ever evaluated. You don't get to to screw up 95% of the time and keep your job because it had the potential to work.

He does not "screw up 95% of the time". That is your emotional and non objective statement. I have identified the ballpark as the main and most important factor. Ump bias plays a part as well.

So yes, Cut the Cap!

Still waiting for the list of good moves that shows a 1/3 success rate......
Its not coming because it doesn't exist. 95% failure rate on trades and FA acquisitions go ahead and prove me wrong.

MLBTradeRumors put this out in 2020.

What a disaster he's been.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/04/ ... iners.html

[Pharmabro]

Don’t remember who originally posted this, but it clearly shows Jerry can’t pick winners. Here’s how he opted to spend on free agents:

2016:
Aoki $5.5M
Lind $8M
Miley $6M
Seth Smith $6.75M
Iannetta $4.25M
Cishek $4M
Benoit $8M
TOTAL: $42.5M
As % of Payroll: 29.86%
Total WAR: 3.0
$/WAR: $14.17M

2017:
Gallardo $9M
Smyly $6.85M
Cishek $6M
Valencia $5.5M
Rzepczynski $5.5M
Ruiz $4.5M
TOTAL: $37.35M
As % of Payroll: 24.2%
Total WAR: -0.3
$/WAR: error

2018:
Gordon $10.8M
Nicasio $7.75M
David Phelps $5.5M
Rzepczynski $5.5M
TOTAL: $29.6M
As % of Payroll: 18.75%
Total WAR: 0.5
$/WAR: $59.2M

2019:
Gordon $13.3M
Kikuchi $9.5M
TOTAL: $22.8M
As % of Payroll: 15.56%
Total WAR: 0.7
$/WAR: $32.57M

2020:
Kikuchi $16M
Gordon $13.74M
Mallex Smith $2.35M
TOTAL: $32M
Short season

2021:
Kikuchi $16.5M
Paxton $8.5M
Montero $2.25M
TOTAL: $27.25M
As % of Payroll: 37.12%
Total WAR: 1.4
$/WAR: $19.46M

2022:
Frazier $8M
Winker $6.75M
Giles $5.25M
Romo $2M
White $1.4M
TOTAL: $23.4M
As % of Payroll: 22.52%
Total WAR: 0.9
$/WAR: $26M

From this group of players, over 6 years (covid pass for 2020), these players accumulated 6.2 WAR for a cost of $182.9M, good for a $/WAR cost of $29.5M

In a market where they estimate one WAR is worth ~$8M on the free agent market, Dipoto paid $29.5M/WAR for these bums.

And got a promotion.

I believe it was BPJ. And, I spotted the BS back then to. Can You? 2022 Saurez is not there. Why well it would have been 4 WAR and a 129 OPS+ that doesn't fit his, or your narrative of JD being a 95% fk up. That 2022 team had 90 wins. You know what else didn't fit the story:
2022
Julio 6.2 WAR 700K
Saurez 3.9 WAR 11.3M
Cal 3.9 WAR 700K
Ty 3.1 WAR 700K
Gilbert 3.2 WAR 700K
JP 2.7 WAR 6.1M
Haggerty 1.5 WAR 700K
Swanson 1.7 WAR 700K
Sewald 1.6 WAR 1.7 M
Kirby 1.4 WAR 700K
Moore 1.4 WAR 1.35 M

25.35 M 30.6 WAR that is 1.2 WAR per million JD is the most smartest most bestest GM ever. And human, best hair ever! 11 players listed and 11 players telling their story, my story, and JD's story of success. A playoff series winning team you 90-72 Seattle Mariners.

And per norm:

Cut the Cap!

[Pharmabro]

He does not "screw up 95% of the time". That is your emotional and non objective statement. I have identified the ballpark as the main and most important factor. Ump bias plays a part as well.

So yes, Cut the Cap!

Still waiting for the list of good moves that shows a 1/3 success rate......
Its not coming because it doesn't exist. 95% failure rate on trades and FA acquisitions go ahead and prove me wrong.

MLBTradeRumors put this out in 2020.

And don't forget to:

Cut the Cap!
What a disaster he's been.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/04/ ... iners.html

Did you happen to notice the poll?

[bpj]

Dipoto has done a good job through the draft, and even picked up some good players on the waiver wire, etc.

The gripe is the huge majority of players he spends money on over minimum, bombs. Hard.

I didn't include the successes because my point was to show how much he wasted.

What Captain is asking you for is the success stories. You've named a bunch of the cheap guys. Now show us the list of successes on guys he's actually allocated payroll to...

[GL_Storm]

I wonder what the league wide success rate is on free agents. In other words, how much worse are the Mariners than the rest of the league? In particular, if you could narrow it down to role player types that teams are willing to spend mid-level salaries on, how often do those work out and how often are they a complete waste of money that you would have been better off doing literally anything else with?

[bpj]

Even Dipoto's "good moves" haven't turned out to be very big wins.

Here's a quick look at some of his most impactful moves-

• Acquired Adam Lind at $8M who put up -0.1 WAR for us in exchange for Freddy Peralta who put up 14.0 WAR in the years the Mariners would have had control over (after giving Mark Trumbo away for Steve Clevenger)

• Acquired Zach Lee who put up 0.0 WAR for us in exchange for Chris Taylor who was worth 14.7 WAR in the years the Mariners would have had control.

• Acquired Segura and Haniger who put up 19.1 WAR at a cost of $15.8M in exchange for Marte and Walker who were worth 16.0 WAR at minimum salary. And that's probably one of his top 3 trades.

• Acquired David Phelps who put up 0.0 WAR at a cost of $7.5M in exchange for Pablo Lopez who put up 16.1 WAR.

Even taking a deeper look at his acquisition of Eugenio Suarez shows even that move isn't a clear win for Dipoto.

They acquired Winker and Suarez, paid them $28.75M, and they put up 8.5 WAR for us. They gave up Fraley, Williamson, and Dunn who have put up 3.7 WAR, for a net of 4.8 WAR at a cost of $28.75M = $6M/WAR, a pretty respectable value.

Unfortunately, Dipoto had to dump Winker for Kolten Wong. Winker and Toro went on to put up 1.7 WAR, while Wong put up -0.9 WAR, dropping the $/WAR further.

Even the Kelenic/Cano+Diaz trade didn't turn out as favorable as people thought. Especially if you don't care about the $ that they never reinvested in the roster anyways. The Mariners got 1.0 WAR from Kelenic/Dunn/Bruce/Swarzak while paying $33M (Bruce & Swarzak) for them. Cano/Diaz went on to put up 7.5 WAR while we saved $87M (120-33 = $87M net savings) on Cano.

[MarinerMike]

[bpj]

Still waiting for the list of good moves that shows a 1/3 success rate......
Its not coming because it doesn't exist. 95% failure rate on trades and FA acquisitions go ahead and prove me wrong.

MLBTradeRumors put this out in 2020.

And don't forget to:

Cut the Cap!
What a disaster he's been.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/04/ ... iners.html

Did you happen to notice the poll?

That seems realistic.

I'd probably give him a C also because he's had success with young players and done well on the draft/waiver pick ups.

His problems have come at the top of his budget. Nobody's complaining about the $700k guys. He's done well at that, but he has failed at adding the "complementary players" to put the team over the top.

It's the $30-$40M he has had the opportunity to spend each offseason in free agency or trade acquisitions that he has whiffed on consistently.

For the most important position in the organization, I'm not settling for a C... seems pretty straightforward.

Dipoto has put the org in a good position but has proven incapable in nearly a decade of putting them over the top.