M's moving forward with Greasy Jerry

[TraderGary]

My only guess is that its something like the FO knew they were sticking it to Trader Jerry by cutting payroll in the offseason so they probably promised him back then - regardless of how the season goes - we know we're f'ing you therefor you won't get fired at the end of the year. Thing for Jerry is, if he has any respect for himself and what he claims to be as a baseball exec, when he has a conversation with Ownership and if they tell him no increase in payroll or even another decrease - he should just resign then/there and say i'm out because he won't survive another year of baseball like this. If I was him - ownership either gives me the ability to fix this or I won't be their scapegoat for another horrible year.

Genuine question. If you owned a team, would you hire him to be your GM?

If he resigned, I'm not sure he would get another GM job. Maybe in a lesser role.

[Donn Beach]

Are you serious? He made the Mariners the most Profitable team in MLB. He's had successful drafts and built one of the best farms in the business. Like with SS there comes a time to move on but he'd he'd have lots of interest if he was available.

[Donn Beach]

It's frustrating because of how wide open the playoffs are. It's interesting

Yankees - On June 14, the Yankees were 50-22. Since then? They are 30-36. They lost series to the Nationals and Cardinals last week. It's just not a reliable team at all.

Guardians - Speaking of which, the Guardians started 51-26. They are 28-33 since. They very recently completed an 8-16 stretch.

Astros - The Astros have done a lot of winning for a while, but starting the season 12-24 put them in a tough position and they've had a few fairly recent hiccups, such as losing six of eight from Aug. 20-27. Especially with Kyle Tucker still injured, the back half of the lineup is far from impressive

Phillies - From July 12 through Aug. 22, the Phillies went 13-22. That's a 35-game stretch where they played like a 102-loss team.

Brewers - They are, like the Astros, doing an awful lot of winning right now. Like the Astros, the Brewers are not impervious to rough stretches. They had a losing record in July, during which they lost Christian Yelich for the season.

Dodgers - The rotation continues to be basically a trainer's room, if not a surgical recovery ward. Even the healthy ones aren't collectively reliable at all. They are just going to continue to patch it together and hope they out-slug people

Padres and Diamondbacks - These have been the two best teams in baseball since the All-Star break, but both were mediocre before the break and that was a much larger sample of baseball.

Royals and Twins - The Royals tied the Guardians and then lost six in a row (and counting). The Twins have lost nine of 14, continue to be an injury-prone bunch and aren't very inspiring.

Braves and Mets (and Cubs?) - The Braves have had the season from hell in terms of injuries along with some under-performance. Until sweeping the pathetic White Sox over the weekend, the Mets had been mediocre (15-16) for a month-plus. The Cubs have moved into contention, but remember, they were under .500 until winning eight of nine against the Marlins, Pirates and Nationals. They aren't just all of a sudden reliably great

[bpj]

Are you serious? He made the Mariners the most Profitable team in MLB. He's had successful drafts and built one of the best farms in the business. Like with SS there comes a time to move on but he'd he'd have lots of interest if he was available.

If the ownership cares more about profits than winning, Dipoto may get another job.

He's a loser.

[Donn Beach]

You think MLB is run by owners that care more about winning than making money?

[Millikin]

You think MLB is run by owners that care more about winning than making money?

Definitely not, but some are willing to take gambles that lead to even more money. The gamble is spending more to win more, which would grow the fan base, more sellouts, merchandise, etc...

Mariners have been a cash cow for awhile now, so they're less likely to gamble. As long as the Mariners always seem to be close to making the playoffs, or on the verge of greatness, things will stay the same. Hope sells.

[GL_Storm]

You think MLB is run by owners that care more about winning than making money?

Definitely not, but some are willing to take gambles that lead to even more money. The gamble is spending more to win more, which would grow the fan base, more sellouts, merchandise, etc...

Mariners have been a cash cow for awhile now, so they're less likely to gamble. As long as the Mariners always seem to be close to making the playoffs, or on the verge of greatness, things will stay the same. Hope sells.

I think a lot of teams would have Jerry DiPoto at the top of their candidate list. But some teams would pass because of the lack of consistent winning. He isn't Dave Dombrowski. And some owners would be turned off by his personality. But I think he would definitely get a job with one of the mid or lower franchises. I don't see him getting one of the better jobs.

[bpj]

You think MLB is run by owners that care more about winning than making money?

The ones that don't suck, yes.

I'd also suspect the winning teams have the highest ROI longterm, despite spending far more, and Dipoto cutting costs low enough to show short term gains for a year or two of success.

[bpj]

You think MLB is run by owners that care more about winning than making money?

Definitely not, but some are willing to take gambles that lead to even more money. The gamble is spending more to win more, which would grow the fan base, more sellouts, merchandise, etc...

Mariners have been a cash cow for awhile now, so they're less likely to gamble. As long as the Mariners always seem to be close to making the playoffs, or on the verge of greatness, things will stay the same. Hope sells.

I think a lot of teams would have Jerry DiPoto at the top of their candidate list. But some teams would pass because of the lack of consistent winning. He isn't Dave Dombrowski. And some owners would be turned off by his personality. But I think he would definitely get a job with one of the mid or lower franchises. I don't see him getting one of the better jobs.

I'm not saying there aren't because I don't know, but are there many other GM's that get another chance after 9 years with a .515 win% and 1 playoff appearance ?

Not a chance he'd be on my list, he can't build a winner.

[Mesully11]

I wonder how he would do if he had a budget just below the so called cap?