2024 Election

[Seattle or Bust]

So profound.

So intelligent.

So right.

What part of what he said do you disagree with?

He has to attack it because he agrees.

Yeah totally. You should teach civics at Harvard.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

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That about covers the Vice-Presidential debate.

[Donn Beach]

Vance wouldn't answer the question of whether Trump lost the last election. Dude as sold his soul to be a senator, he's there because Pense believes in the constitution

Vance was once a prominent 'never Trump' conservative, who called the capricious mogul everything from "a fraud" through "a moral disaster" to "cultural heroin", as well as privately worrying that he might be "America's Hitler".

[auroraave]

Vance wouldn't answer the question of whether Trump lost the last election. Dude as sold his soul to be a senator, he's there because Pense believes in the constitution

Vance was once a prominent 'never Trump' conservative, who called the capricious mogul everything from "a fraud" through "a moral disaster" to "cultural heroin", as well as privately worrying that he might be "America's Hitler".

Isn't Trump pro-israel and anti war? Wouldn't that make him - quite literally - the opposite of Hitler? But seriously though, I love love love people tossing out this utter nonsense to 'frighten' people into submitting to the will of the dems. It's like the 'OMG - racism!" card - no one buys it anymore - it's another grift coming from the dems. If the dems wanted to grow their voter base - all they have to do is have smart, common sense policies that help the average American - but since they have none, it's name calling and fear mongering and we will give you free shit like cancel student debt if you vote for us. It's a grift. Also, how would they know what he was thinking in private - if it was private?

As always, nothing coming from the dems has any foundation in common sense or logic - or ever ever ever ever ever in common sense pro-american taxpayer policy. The grift is up - NO ONE buys it and NO ONE cares about 'election denial'. Remember - hillary was then original election denier - which conveniently left out of their nonsensical hate-based rhetoric. the same people doing everything they can to take away free speech and misinform you about your health - and all they can come up with is "Trump is a threat to democracy" and the hilarious 'hitler' nonsense. You would have to be a complete dunce to buy into this stuff. "Mostly peaceful protests" in support of a career criminal while cities are burning in front of our eyes.

Waltz gets thoroughly embarrassed in the debate - and you're trying to steer the conversation to 'trump is like hitler' and 'election denier" that's all you've got? While inflation is killing the country? LMAO!

make it make sense 2024

[auroraave]

Vance wouldn't answer the question of whether Trump lost the last election. Dude as sold his soul to be a senator, he's there because Pense believes in the constitution

Vance was once a prominent 'never Trump' conservative, who called the capricious mogul everything from "a fraud" through "a moral disaster" to "cultural heroin", as well as privately worrying that he might be "America's Hitler".

Isn't Trump pro-israel and anti war? Wouldn't that make him - quite literally - the opposite of Hitler? But seriously though, I love love love people tossing out this utter nonsense to 'frighten' people into submitting to the will of the dems. It's like the 'OMG - racism!" card - no one buys it anymore - it's another grift coming from the dems. If the dems wanted to grow their voter base - all they have to do is have smart, common sense policies that help the average American - but since they have none, it's name calling and fear mongering and we will give you free shit like cancel student debt if you vote for us. It's a grift. Also, how would they know what he was thinking in private - if it was private?

As always, nothing coming from the dems has any foundation in common sense or logic - or ever ever ever ever ever in common sense pro-american taxpayer policy. The grift is up - NO ONE buys it and NO ONE cares about 'election denial'. Remember - hillary was then original election denier - which conveniently left out of their nonsensical hate-based rhetoric. the same people doing everything they can to take away free speech and misinform you about your health - and all they can come up with is "Trump is a threat to democracy" and the hilarious 'hitler' nonsense. You would have to be a complete dunce to buy into this stuff. "Mostly peaceful protests" in support of a career criminal while cities are burning in front of our eyes.

Waltz gets thoroughly embarrassed in the debate - and you're trying to steer the conversation to 'trump is like hitler' and 'election denier" that's all you've got? While inflation is killing the country? LMAO!

Funny how the dems are pro-war, anti israel and anti free speech - yet trump is 'hitler' and a threat to democracy.

make it make sense 2024

[auroraave]

Vance wouldn't answer the question of whether Trump lost the last election. Dude as sold his soul to be a senator, he's there because Pense believes in the constitution

Vance was once a prominent 'never Trump' conservative, who called the capricious mogul everything from "a fraud" through "a moral disaster" to "cultural heroin", as well as privately worrying that he might be "America's Hitler".

Isn't Trump pro-israel and anti war? Wouldn't that make him - quite literally - the opposite of Hitler? But seriously though, I love love love people tossing out this utter nonsense to 'frighten' people into submitting to the will of the dems. It's like the 'OMG - racism!" card - no one buys it anymore - it's another grift coming from the dems. If the dems wanted to grow their voter base - all they have to do is have smart, common sense policies that help the average American - but since they have none, it's name calling and fear mongering and we will give you free shit like cancel student debt if you vote for us. It's a grift. Also, how would they know what he was thinking in private - if it was private?

As always, nothing coming from the dems has any foundation in common sense or logic - or ever ever ever ever ever in common sense pro-american taxpayer policy. The grift is up - NO ONE buys it and NO ONE cares about 'election denial'. Remember - hillary was then original election denier - which conveniently left out of their nonsensical hate-based rhetoric. the same people doing everything they can to take away free speech and misinform you about your health - and all they can come up with is "Trump is a threat to democracy" and the hilarious 'hitler' nonsense. You would have to be a complete dunce to buy into this stuff. "Mostly peaceful protests" in support of a career criminal while cities are burning in front of our eyes.

Waltz gets thoroughly embarrassed in the debate - and you're trying to steer the conversation to 'trump is like hitler' and 'election denier" that's all you've got? While inflation is killing the country? LMAO!

Funny how the dems are pro-war, anti israel and anti free speech - trump literally got the middle east peace deals done (abraham accord) yet somehow trump is 'hitler' and a threat to democracy.

make it make sense 2024

[gil]

I had to go to a meeting during most of the debate, so I saw the first 5 minutes, saw another 10 minutes with the sound muted, and then tuned in for the last 10 or so. What I saw:

Vance had a great start, introducing himself. He seemed calm and made good points. Walz seemed very nervous, jumpy, flubbed his words a few times. Frantically taking notes. So for the first 15, I think the "Walz got posterized" meme was pretty much my reaction. Vance was doing better both on style and substance.

I didn't see the point when both their mics got tuned off. I guess other than that it was pretty civil.

In the closing part I watched, it was much more even in style (Walz had settled down). I thought Walz scored big as both addressed who won the 2020 election (and what Trump believed about that election). Style even, substance favoring Walz.

Not surprisingly (I suppose): overall, Republicans thought that Vance won; Democrats that thought that Walz won.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

I've said it before....

I don't care for Trump, but like his policies. After the VP debate I have come to the conclusion that I wont vote for President Trump, but will vote for JD Vance.

[XpertDBA]

Vance wouldn't answer the question of whether Trump lost the last election. Dude as sold his soul to be a senator, he's there because Pense believes in the constitution

Vance was once a prominent 'never Trump' conservative, who called the capricious mogul everything from "a fraud" through "a moral disaster" to "cultural heroin", as well as privately worrying that he might be "America's Hitler".

Yeah, because Hillary believes she lost her election. Smh......where do they find these morons?

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

Gordon Sondland, who served as then-President Trump’s ambassador to the EU and who became a star witness against him in his first impeachment, shocked an MSNBC host by saying Trump won his support once again.

MSNBC host Ari Melber spoke with three former Trump officials, including White House adviser Peter Navarro, White House spokeswoman Sarah Matthews and Sondland, about topics such as how working for the Trump administration has impacted their lives or what the most important thing was that they learned about the former president. Sondland in particular was asked whether he stands by a previous disavowal of the president after the events of Jan. 6, 2021.

"No, I don’t stand by it, and I’ll tell you why," Sondland began. "I’ve now lived four years under the Biden-Harris policies and I have to say that those policies are not only becoming an existential threat to our country’s way of life, but to our allies as well."

The host loudly interrupted him and began shouting, "I’m going to let you finish, but this is so striking. You said it was a ‘no for me’ after that, after Jan. 6. And here we are right now, and you’re saying it’s a yes for you?"

Ari Melber shouted in disbelief as he questioned one of his guests
MSNBC host Ari Melber expressed shock as a former official who testified against former President Trump says he regained his support.

"It is a yes, for me. It is an absolute yes for me," Sondland said. "That is how badly the Biden-Harris team have prosecuted their job."

Melber continued speaking at a loud volume during the exchange: "But the whole point you seem to be making was that Jan. 6th and that kind of attack on democracy is bigger than any policy—"

"I am seeing so many attacks on democracy that eclipse Jan. 6th," Sondland replied, encouraging Melber to ask him what those are. Earlier in the same panel, he had voiced his concerns about a future scenario where "if the Democrats are able to impose their desired program over the next several years, there will be massive voting irregularities."

He later said, "Policy matters greatly, because policy translates into our way of life and the way our country operates." While he argued that Trump’s conduct around Jan. 6 was not an exemplary thing, there are bigger concerns facing the American electorate.

"I want to express is that I’ve now lived for four years under the Biden-Harris administration," Sondland said. "I live in a bucolic city of Portland, Oregon, which has been destroyed by those policies. Absolutely decimated. Businesses are suffering. My own business is suffering solely for political reasons, and it’s all fixable and they don’t want to fix it."