So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason

[Seattle or Bust]

Arenado turns down deal to go to Houston. Apparently wants to play for a team in California (he's from Newport Beach).

Deal supposedly sent prospects back to the Cardinals in exchange for eating $15 million of the salary. That's essentially one year of the remaining 3 years paid for.

[Donn Beach]

He would allow a trade to the red Sox or Mets

It’s unknown exactly why Arenado doesn’t want to go to the Astros, though given his desire to join a team that can win now, Houston’s trade of Kyle Tucker to the Cubs last week couldn’t have helped its effort to land the 10-time Gold Glove Award winner.

Astros seem to be in decline, will the Mariners take advantage?

[Donn Beach]

Calling for Dana Browns head

https://fansided.com/nolan-arenado-deba ... -astros-gm

[Pharmabro]

Another day of nothing. And the silence speaks volumes.

[TLO Idaho]

Arenado turns down deal to go to Houston. Apparently wants to play for a team in California (he's from Newport Beach).

Deal supposedly sent prospects back to the Cardinals in exchange for eating $15 million of the salary. That's essentially one year of the remaining 3 years paid for.

IMO Players are getting to greedy. I hope who ever signs him fall flat on their face. And the Cards come out smelling like a rose for years to come.

[Bil522]

Arenado turns down deal to go to Houston. Apparently wants to play for a team in California (he's from Newport Beach).

Deal supposedly sent prospects back to the Cardinals in exchange for eating $15 million of the salary. That's essentially one year of the remaining 3 years paid for.

IMO Players are getting to greedy. I hope who ever signs him fall flat on their face. And the Cards come out smelling like a rose for years to come.

No, the players are taking advantage of the owners stupidity. You sign a player in his late 20's-early 30's and think they will be like that forever, so sure, let's give him a no-trade clause for the life of the contract....then are SHOCKED when his skills are not worth $35mill/ for 4-5 more years. So let's trade him...oh wait...there is that little no trade clause we gave as a perk.

Baseball should front load the contracts if you are signing a player to a 10yr $400 million deal....give the player 4 seasons at $70mill and the last 6 are $20mill each. As a player you are making more upfront as an owner you make it easier to trade a guy at the back end of his contract

[TLO Idaho]

Arenado turns down deal to go to Houston. Apparently wants to play for a team in California (he's from Newport Beach).

Deal supposedly sent prospects back to the Cardinals in exchange for eating $15 million of the salary. That's essentially one year of the remaining 3 years paid for.

IMO Players are getting to greedy. I hope who ever signs him fall flat on their face. And the Cards come out smelling like a rose for years to come.

No, the players are taking advantage of the owners stupidity. You sign a player in his late 20's-early 30's and think they will be like that forever, so sure, let's give him a no-trade clause for the life of the contract....then are SHOCKED when his skills are not worth $35mill/ for 4-5 more years. So let's trade him...oh wait...there is that little no trade clause we gave as a perk.

Baseball should front load the contracts if you are signing a player to a 10yr $400 million deal....give the player 4 seasons at $70mill and the last 6 are $20mill each. As a player you are making more upfront as an owner you make it easier to trade a guy at the back end of his contract

Sorry I'm talk[ng more about the god damm no trade clauses. I'm paying you that much I can trade you to who and when I want.

[Donn Beach]

Arenado turns down deal to go to Houston. Apparently wants to play for a team in California (he's from Newport Beach).

Deal supposedly sent prospects back to the Cardinals in exchange for eating $15 million of the salary. That's essentially one year of the remaining 3 years paid for.

IMO Players are getting to greedy. I hope who ever signs him fall flat on their face. And the Cards come out smelling like a rose for years to come.

No, the players are taking advantage of the owners stupidity. You sign a player in his late 20's-early 30's and think they will be like that forever, so sure, let's give him a no-trade clause for the life of the contract....then are SHOCKED when his skills are not worth $35mill/ for 4-5 more years. So let's trade him...oh wait...there is that little no trade clause we gave as a perk.

Baseball should front load the contracts if you are signing a player to a 10yr $400 million deal....give the player 4 seasons at $70mill and the last 6 are $20mill each. As a player you are making more upfront as an owner you make it easier to trade a guy at the back end of his contract

That would make a contract even more expensive for an owner. The longer you delay a payment the less it's worth.

[D-train]

IMO Players are getting to greedy. I hope who ever signs him fall flat on their face. And the Cards come out smelling like a rose for years to come.

No, the players are taking advantage of the owners stupidity. You sign a player in his late 20's-early 30's and think they will be like that forever, so sure, let's give him a no-trade clause for the life of the contract....then are SHOCKED when his skills are not worth $35mill/ for 4-5 more years. So let's trade him...oh wait...there is that little no trade clause we gave as a perk.

Baseball should front load the contracts if you are signing a player to a 10yr $400 million deal....give the player 4 seasons at $70mill and the last 6 are $20mill each. As a player you are making more upfront as an owner you make it easier to trade a guy at the back end of his contract

That would make a contract even more expensive for an owner. The longer you delay a payment the less it's worth.

Yep, would be cheaper to through in cash to make the trade work.

[D-train]

Arenado turns down deal to go to Houston. Apparently wants to play for a team in California (he's from Newport Beach).

Deal supposedly sent prospects back to the Cardinals in exchange for eating $15 million of the salary. That's essentially one year of the remaining 3 years paid for.

Everyone is saying the Astros are giving up just like they said they were toast when we had a 10 game lead in June. We will see if that prediction is terrible too.