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Trump on Canada

Post by bpj » Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:25 am

I keep wondering why we'd bother taking Canada or Greenland...

As far as Canada goes, Trump says it pretty clearly in this video. We pretty much already pay for their country to exist, we might as well stop paying and just let their territories benefit the US for once.

https://youtu.be/nMmfIbJzG7I?si=-bvsWHrAOdKA-hkl

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Re: Trump on Canada

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:33 am

I'm not much for watching videos, how do we pay for Canada to exist?

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Re: Trump on Canada

Post by ddraig » Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:41 am

The Chinese and the Russians are looking at the "Northwest Passage" to get their goods to Europe faster. Anyone who thinks those ships are strictly commercial hasn't been paying attention for the past 100 years. We already guarantee Greenland's security and should be able to purchase it for less than $50 Billion.

As for Canada, I know most of us think they are a bunch of liberal loonies, but most of the provinces absolutely hate Ontario. BC is a toss up, Alberta, Saskatchewan, and Manitoba are relatively conservative. All in all, I'd think the Dems would be jumping up and down to annex Canada. Three conservative States, a couple of toss-ups, and perhaps four liberal states. It's an interesting concept but I doubt either one of these ideas has legs.

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Re: Trump on Canada

Post by bpj » Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:33 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:33 am
I'm not much for watching videos, how do we pay for Canada to exist?
It's 3 minutes long.

$200 billion per year. Plus we take their products we don't need. Without us they're crippled.

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Re: Trump on Canada

Post by Seattle or Bust » Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:21 pm

Not even President yet and we’re approaching max stupidity. Nice.

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Re: Trump on Canada

Post by auroraave » Wed Jan 08, 2025 4:13 pm

bpj wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 3:25 am
I keep wondering why we'd bother taking Canada or Greenland...

As far as Canada goes, Trump says it pretty clearly in this video. We pretty much already pay for their country to exist, we might as well stop paying and just let their territories benefit the US for once.

https://youtu.be/nMmfIbJzG7I?si=-bvsWHrAOdKA-hkl
He won't be taking over either - this is clearly rhetoric for negotiations - letting the world know our opening position. He is correct - but there will be no territory acquisitions. For the love of God would people please see this stuff for what it is. He wants much more favorable trade deals with Canada, he wants China etal to know we ain't fucking around when it comes to Greenland - a territory I do not know or understand the value of - is it strategic or are there exploitable resources (ala Ukraine - the real reason we are there) - is it military - I do not claim to know. Trump is a business man - that's how he thinks - what is the value of these properties? Regardless, there is zero chance we annex Canada, nor is that in ANY way his goal. C'mon people. Be smarter than that.

I am always surprised at the knee jerk reactions - people somehow deducing he is positing a one-step process - when he is thinking ten steps down the road. This is one of those steps. How do people not see that? The best part is watching the same simpletons get triggered :lol:

The reality is Trump is likely tossing an opening salvo at Canada's next PM - letting them know who is boss - and he won't put up with any of that Trudeau level bullshit. He already basically ran Trudeau out of town - as we all now he is resigning in utter disgrace. Under his 'watch' canada's economy has crashed 40% and the conservatives have a 20% lead now. Time to kick back and watch CNN and their slack-jawed troglodyte viewers act like Trump is minutes away from lining up tanks for the invasion in 3..2..1...

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Re: Trump on Canada

Post by gil » Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:00 pm

There's a long term trend of less sea ice in the Arctic Ocean. As it becomes open for shipping for more of the year, it becomes more strategic. Essentially, Russia is on one side of the Arctic, and the other side is Alaska, Canada, and Greenland.

large-detailed-map-of-arctic-ocean.jpg

(I know this is not the standard view of the earth. Russia is on top in light green. Alaska lower left in light pink, Canada in pink, and Greenland in white with yellow border.)

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Re: Trump on Canada

Post by mostonmike » Wed Jan 08, 2025 7:21 pm

Sounds like you are going to busy as Musk wants you to liberate Britain as well.
the Independent wrote: full article link

Elon Musk has suggested in a post on X that Americans “should liberate" the British from their "tyrannical government" as he attempts to insert himself deeper into British politics and continues to feud with the country’s ruling Labour Party over its handling of child abuse cases.

In perhaps his strangest intervention in foreign politics yet, the Tesla and Space X multi-billionaire asked for a show of hands in a poll on his social network Monday on his statement: "America should liberate the people of Britain from their tyrannical government.” It had 39 million views by Monday evening.

Whether he was referring to harsh criticism, covert support for domestic guerrillas, or military action in the “liberation” was unclear, but he also added that it was "not a bad idea" for Britain to become a U.S. state, as Donald Trump has suggested for Canada.
Musk is a bit of a weirdo.

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Re: Trump on Canada

Post by bpj » Thu Jan 09, 2025 12:53 pm

Interesting takes, I get the feeling he's serious about at least Greenland.

He doesn't sound like he's posturing about Canada either. From what I saw Trudeau resigned within days of meeting with Trump.

Guess we'll see what happens, I don't think Trump's messing around this term.

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Re: Trump on Canada

Post by D-train » Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:04 pm

gil wrote:
Wed Jan 08, 2025 6:00 pm
There's a long term trend of less sea ice in the Arctic Ocean. As it becomes open for shipping for more of the year, it becomes more strategic. Essentially, Russia is on one side of the Arctic, and the other side is Alaska, Canada, and Greenland.


large-detailed-map-of-arctic-ocean.jpg


(I know this is not the standard view of the earth. Russia is on top in light green. Alaska lower left in light pink, Canada in pink, and Greenland in white with yellow border.)
For those that are color blind and have never looked at a globe in their lives, Alaska is the one that says Alaska, Canada is the one that says Canada, Russia is the one that says the Federation of Russia. Greenland is the large blob bottom right. lol
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