T Mobile, a hitters worst nightmare

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T Mobile, a hitters worst nightmare

Post by Michael K. » Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:33 pm

I apologize if this has been posted....the video is three months old. But crazy shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaU2gpozGZs

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Re: T Mobile, a hitters worst nightmare

Post by AZOldDawg » Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:03 am

Interesting piece. Seems to make sense to keep exploring ways to improve the batter’s eye background. This is probably stupid and not well thought through on my part but it might be interesting to close the roof based on temperature

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Re: T Mobile, a hitters worst nightmare

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Jan 09, 2025 3:26 pm

Don't think it affect temperature, Boone wanted it closed to combat sun glare

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Re: T Mobile, a hitters worst nightmare

Post by Michael K. » Thu Jan 09, 2025 3:37 pm

AZOldDawg wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 1:03 am
Interesting piece. Seems to make sense to keep exploring ways to improve the batter’s eye background. This is probably stupid and not well thought through on my part but it might be interesting to close the roof based on temperature
I thought it was very interesting when they focused on pitching. It has been discussed many times in here how our pitching is not the best in the game, we just get to play half our games here. That said? Maybe the strategy isn't to add hitting at any price, when it probably won't work in the park they built anyway.

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Re: T Mobile, a hitters worst nightmare

Post by Lamda » Thu Jan 09, 2025 3:43 pm

Just gotta find the right 'good' hitter is the problem. Most come here and struggle but some have done just fine in our park like Olerud, Boone (although he was juicing haha), Cano, Ichiro, Cruz, etc.

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Re: T Mobile, a hitters worst nightmare

Post by Captain 97 » Thu Jan 09, 2025 4:46 pm

The marine layer doesn't just effect fly ball distance, It also provides more drag on a pitched ball which means more movement in pitches.

I don't think there is an easy fix for the batters eye. even if you were able to rebuild the batters eye to be square, the stands and the giant scoreboard are slanted as well so there is still going to be that optical illusion that you are standing crooked at the plate. You would literally have to tear down all of the center field section of the stadium and rebuild it.

Seems like the M's should be able to use the park to their advantage in signing free agent pitchers. From this standpoint it would make sense for them to spend a higher percentage of draft capitol on hitters and also cause them to not be so tightfisted with their young big league pitching when considering trades.

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Re: T Mobile, a hitters worst nightmare

Post by D-train » Thu Jan 09, 2025 4:58 pm

I can't believe in this era of AI, rockets into space on the daily and sex robots they can't fix the damn ball park to get it to hitting neutral.
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Re: T Mobile, a hitters worst nightmare

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Jan 09, 2025 5:09 pm

You could but It cost money, Like captain pointed out it take remodeling

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Re: T Mobile, a hitters worst nightmare

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Thu Jan 09, 2025 5:22 pm

I didn't watch the video yet, but has anyone looked at contact-related stats to try to separate out issues related to hitters' ability to track the ball and ballpark factors like grass and field dimensions?

For instance, when a ball is hit with an exit velocity between 80 and 90 mph and launch angle between 10 and 15 degrees what are the results at T-Mobile field vs other ballparks? When a pitcher throws an 85-90 mph changeup in the strike zone what sort of contact do batters make (and what is the rate of swings-and-misses) at T-Mobile vs other ballparks? It shouldn't be that hard, by looking at those numbers, to map the differences and then figure out why they exist. Heck, they can probably measure movement to spin rate on pitches to determine if balls break more here due to air density/humidity. I don't understand why there is this shroud of mystery around it when the tools to explain it are readily available.

Has anyone even bothered asking current and former Mariner players why they find it harder to get hits here? Teoscar certainly had something to say about it but you get the feeling that current players have a gag order on them with regard to the subject. Stanton and the other owners don't seem to care but you would think a local reporter would have investigated and made that information public. It seems to me that everything besides air density and temperature can be manipulated to address the situation but i have seen no indication that anyone within the organization is interested in figuring it out.
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Re: T Mobile, a hitters worst nightmare

Post by Seattle or Bust » Thu Jan 09, 2025 5:24 pm

Luke Raley: .901 OPS at home / .666 OPS away

Victor Robles: .983 OPS at home / .698 OPS away

Cal Raleigh: .665 OPS at home / .823 OPS away ... 2023: .730 OPS at home / .794 OPS away ... 2022: .600 OPS at home /.961 OPS away

Julio Rodriguez: .655 OPS at home / .805 OPS away ... 2023: .785 OPS at home/ .850 OPS away ... 2022: .892 OPS at home /.820 OPS away

JP Crawford: .480 OPS at home / .762 OPS away ... 2023: .842 OPS at home/ .793 OPS away

Ty France: 2023: .756 OPS at home / .652 away ... 2022: .784 OPS at home / .765 OPS away

Can anyone explain the pure insanity of these numbers?

I posted this the other day but nobody responded to it...

The thing that gets me is the utter polarity... people either hit at an MVP level in this stadium or crater to DFA territory.

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