Playoffs

[Pharmabro]

Under the current format? The bye doesn't seem to be a benefit. Oregon and Georgia both missed out on hosting a playoff game, and ended up playing a damn tough opponent who had just won while they hadn't played in weeks. Do away with the automatic bye and top four seed for Conference winners, unless they are going to balance out the Conferences. I realize that seems unfair, but this isn't the NFL, where a 7 and 9 Seahawk team can host a playoff team and beat the Saints. Boise St. got flat out outclassed, and it wasn't their fault. But again? You want to reward them? Give them a home playoff game.

After seeing Oregon and Ohio State and Notre Dame versus Georgia in the second round? I'd be for either making it 8 teams without the bye, making it 16 teams, or keeping it the way it is, but using the rankings to seed it, legitimately seed it.

Oregon, Georgia, Texas and Penn State would have had byes. Makes more sense than ASU and Boise St. getting byes, right? The games would have been

ND versus Clemson Winner plays at Penn State
Ohio St versus Arizona State Winner plays at Texas
Tennessee versus SMU Winner plays at Georgia
Indiana versus Boise State Winner plays at Oregon

Doesn't that seem to make more sense? You'd have most likely had a Semi Final of Notre Dame vs Oregon and Texas vs Georgia. Maybe Notre Dame loses at Penn State though and maybe Texas loses to Ohio State....but still, you wouldn't get second round matchups where your top two seeds are actually at a disadvantage. GA gets a neutral field game against a hot ND team and Oregon gets a neutral field game against a red hot Ohio St team?

No, I believe you should give the nod the conference champions and not prop up the two super conferences.

[Michael K.]

Even when it means first round games like we just saw? All four teams with a bye lost, and Boise State wasn’t even competitive? If they form a new PAC Conference and it has the Mtn West and Oregon St and WSU? That champ deserves a bye? No way.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

Then we need to get rid of the conference championship games.

There are way to many scenarios to cover all outcomes. They need to pick a path and stick with it.

[Michael K.]

Then we need to get rid of the conference championship games.

There are way to many scenarios to cover all outcomes. They need to pick a path and stick with it.

Too much money involved. I imagine those games make a shit ton of money for the Conferences and the NCAA. But honestly? I'm not sure why a Conference Championship game matters? I didn't say you don't let the Conference Champ in, of course you do. They just don't have to be a top four seed and get a Bye.

[Walla Walla Dawg II]

Then we need to get rid of the conference championship games.

There are way to many scenarios to cover all outcomes. They need to pick a path and stick with it.

Too much money involved. I imagine those games make a shit ton of money for the Conferences and the NCAA. But honestly? I'm not sure why a Conference Championship game matters? I didn't say you don't let the Conference Champ in, of course you do. They just don't have to be a top four seed and get a Bye.

I said that if the conference championship isn't going to matter, why play them?

Just consider the arguing if a conference championship isn't a top seed, or if a team that didn't play in the conference championship game is seeded above them.

It's either an entire over hall of the system, or do nothing and live with it. Small tweaks will not do a thing.


I'd rather see additional rules in place that state a 3-win team cannot be in the playoff, unless it's the conference champion.... but that is because I believe a conference championship matters.

I also think ALL 1-loss teams should be auto-bids. Yes, that would be Army, even though they would have been blown out in the first round. But that is because record has to matter.

[Michael K.]

I said that if the conference championship isn't going to matter, why play them?

I know what you said, I am asking you how they don't matter? Conference Champs get in....I just don't think they all deserve a top four seed and a bye.

Just consider the arguing if a conference championship isn't a top seed, or if a team that didn't play in the conference championship game is seeded above them.

It's either an entire over hall of the system, or do nothing and live with it. Small tweaks will not do a thing.

I disagree. I don't think ANYONE would have argued if the four top seeds were Oregon, Georgia, Texas and Penn State. Not giving a bye to ASU or Boise State would have not only made sense, but it would have been about 1 million percent less of an issue that what we have had in the past. Look at last year alone?

I'd rather see additional rules in place that state a 3-win team cannot be in the playoff, unless it's the conference champion.... but that is because I believe a conference championship matters.

I also think ALL 1-loss teams should be auto-bids. Yes, that would be Army, even though they would have been blown out in the first round. But that is because record has to matter.

I don't disagree with that, but don't think they could co-exist. I mean, Conference Champs should be in, and the rest of the field should revolve around that. Again, I don't think anyone argued that Army deserved to get in this year, nor do I believe they would have added anything to the playoffs. Army lost to ND 49 to 14, and that's because they scored a TD with 22 seconds left! They then lost to Navy and got trounced by Louisiana Tech in a Bowl game. They didn't belong. And Bama lost three games, so they had no case.

Army was not better than any of these teams, I don't think.
Clemson - lost 38-24
Tennessee - lost 42-17
SMU - Lost 38-10
Indiana - Lost 27-17 (game was 27 to 3 with less than five minutes to go)

Those are the four teams that lost in the first round. Then throw in that the 3 seed was Boise State and they lost 31 - 14 after getting an automatic bye? I'm not sure how anyone can argue for teams that didn't get in.

I think a small tweek is fine. Just seed the 12 teams. Take the 4 Champs and 8 at large teams and have a committee seed them. Basketball doesn't give any guarantee of a seed for winning the Conference. And if there is one thing that has been right for the NCAA over the years? It's March Madness. Is there a little controversy? Sure, but not because some over matched team from a weak Conference got a high seed! There is going to be Controversy no matter what. Unless they make like 8 Super Conferences and simply take 8 teams. But even then? How do you decide the seeds? It would be a committee.

[D-train]

Huskies ranked 8th in the big 10.

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/uw- ... standings/

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Is that much of an improvement?

[Michael K.]

They tied Rutgers and SC for 9th last year. So? Small improvement I guess. They are still probably a season or two away, if they can make improvements up front. Seems there will be no shortage of skill players.