So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason

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Post by bpj » Thu Jan 23, 2025 8:38 am

A guy like Pete Alonso would cost $300M if he was a SS.

1b and DH are the new "market inefficiencies" imo. Far underpaid relative to what they bring to the scoreboard.

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Post by Donn Beach » Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:28 am

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:01 am
A little nugget from the Kramer article on MLB yesterday.

He said the M's were trying to land Nate Lowe from the Rangers. First I had heard that... although it's not surprising given the need at 1B. The Rangers got a high-peripheral low-performing (-0.2 bWAR in '24) reliever for him back.

Kramer says the Rangers were cautious about trading him to the M's due to it being interdivision but they really couldn't beat that offer to make it worth their while lol?
I'm confused, isn't he a national?
The Texas Rangers acquired left-handed reliever Robert Garcia from the Washington Nationals in a trade Sunday for past Gold Glove and Silver Slugger first baseman Nathaniel Lowe.

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Post by Vogelbomb » Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:07 pm

He is, Kramer was writing about the M's having interest in Lowe before he was dealt by Texas to WAS. I'm not sure if Seattle or Bust caught that or not

SoB, some teams really don't want to trade intra-division and I'd be one of the GMs. Just not a smart move.

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Post by gil » Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:08 pm

Vogelbomb wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:07 pm
He is, Kramer was writing about the M's having interest in Lowe before he was dealt by Texas to WAS. I'm not sure if Seattle or Bust caught that or not

SoB, some teams really don't want to trade intra-division and I'd be one of the GMs. Just not a smart move.
Why would you not do an intra-division trade if you think you can *win it"? Any trade you make is with the expectation of improving your club. Do you think that GMs are risk averse and don't want any possibility of a division rival improving?

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Post by Donn Beach » Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:43 pm

It applies to particular players. You don't want them coming back and beating you. Like for instance the angles would be unlikely to trade Trout to the mariners only to have him come back repeatedly each season and beating them. It more likely be a trade to the Phillies in the other league.

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Post by D-train » Thu Jan 23, 2025 6:21 pm

Pharmabro wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:48 am
Another day, another day of nothing.

30 days until game #1 of Spring.
Half of these posts are getting better and better. :)
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Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri Jan 24, 2025 1:19 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 9:28 am
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 5:01 am
A little nugget from the Kramer article on MLB yesterday.

He said the M's were trying to land Nate Lowe from the Rangers. First I had heard that... although it's not surprising given the need at 1B. The Rangers got a high-peripheral low-performing (-0.2 bWAR in '24) reliever for him back.

Kramer says the Rangers were cautious about trading him to the M's due to it being interdivision but they really couldn't beat that offer to make it worth their while lol?
I'm confused, isn't he a national?
The Texas Rangers acquired left-handed reliever Robert Garcia from the Washington Nationals in a trade Sunday for past Gold Glove and Silver Slugger first baseman Nathaniel Lowe.
Where is the confusion?

The M's tried to trade for Lowe before he went to the Nats. Kramer stated so.

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Post by D-train » Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:00 am

Bad day for JK. lol
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Post by D-train » Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:09 am

Vogelbomb wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2025 4:07 pm
He is, Kramer was writing about the M's having interest in Lowe before he was dealt by Texas to WAS. I'm not sure if Seattle or Bust caught that or not

SoB, some teams really don't want to trade intra-division and I'd be one of the GMs. Just not a smart move.
If a GM is worth their salt they are confident enough to make a trade with a division rival knowing they are getting better and the rival is getting worse. Only reason not to is because if you are so insecure you think it will come back to haunt you. Weak AF.
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Post by Donn Beach » Fri Jan 24, 2025 3:12 am

The Yankees and Red Sox have made a total of nine trades since 1969, believe they have had some competent GMs on that time

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