Seattle Beat Writers and BS About the Offense.

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Re: Seattle Beat Writers and BS About the Offense.

Post by DavidGee24 » Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:04 am

bhofferb wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:48 am
My theory is that Vogelbomb works for the M's. Jerry, is that you?
Either that or he's one of those ridiculous people on X that Darren screenshots for us. Dude called Mitch Garver's 2024 an "anomaly"...although I guess you could argue that he was right in that Garver's career batting average at T-Mobile shot up from .000 to .128.

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Re: Seattle Beat Writers and BS About the Offense.

Post by GL_Storm » Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:57 am

DavidGee24 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:04 am
bhofferb wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:48 am
My theory is that Vogelbomb works for the M's. Jerry, is that you?
Either that or he's one of those ridiculous people on X that Darren screenshots for us. Dude called Mitch Garver's 2024 an "anomaly"...although I guess you could argue that he was right in that Garver's career batting average at T-Mobile shot up from .000 to .128.
It is really weird the way Garver's batting average completely collapsed the way it did.

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Re: Seattle Beat Writers and BS About the Offense.

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:44 am

Yeah, his numbers tend to move all over the place season to season. It be nice if there was the hint of an explanation. Like polanco, I think he was probably injured. Garver played in a lot of games last season, career high. Be nice if last season was an anomaly, I think the mariners are counting on it

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Re: Seattle Beat Writers and BS About the Offense.

Post by D-train » Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:27 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:44 am
Yeah, his numbers tend to move all over the place season to season. It be nice if there was the hint of an explanation. Like polanco, I think he was probably injured. Garver played in a lot of games last season, career high. Be nice if last season was an anomaly, I think the mariners are counting on it
He has been great in the past 3 odd years. Which is one of the strangest phenomenon's in Sports. I have seen it before.

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Re: Seattle Beat Writers and BS About the Offense.

Post by D-train » Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:31 am

GL_Storm wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 2:57 am
DavidGee24 wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 1:04 am
bhofferb wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 12:48 am
My theory is that Vogelbomb works for the M's. Jerry, is that you?
Either that or he's one of those ridiculous people on X that Darren screenshots for us. Dude called Mitch Garver's 2024 an "anomaly"...although I guess you could argue that he was right in that Garver's career batting average at T-Mobile shot up from .000 to .128.
It is really weird the way Garver's batting average completely collapsed the way it did.
He was horrid in 2020 and 2022 as well. It's like horoscope level madness.
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Re: Seattle Beat Writers and BS About the Offense.

Post by Seattle or Bust » Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:32 am

DavidGee24 wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:04 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:57 am
Vogelbomb wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:19 am


Julio? does he count?
Cal
JP (he was a failed prospect when he was acquired)
Noelvi Marte
Edwin Arroyo
Tyler Locklear
Cole Young (on his way)
??? Bro why are you so routinely bad at this.

Julio was supposed to be the next coming of Jesus. He put up a .734 OPS in his 3rd year in the majors when he's supposed to be Mike Trout. His bat has gotten worse each year in the majors. That's not supposed to happen.

Cal and his career .218 BA and .740 OPS? Yeah?

JP Crawford has had one good season with the bat. He's had 5 seasons of a .684 OPS or worse with the M's. He's a horrible hitter.

Noelvi Marte was technically the worst player in the majors last year over his 66 games. He put up -1.8 bWAR with a .539 OPS.

Arroyo is 20. They traded him at 18. He didn't play last year. WTF kind of development are you talking about?

The world seems down on Locklear. Perhaps he'll hit as a major leaguer but many don't think he will.

The same Cole Young that slugged .390 in AA?

Like do you read this shit before you post it?
Dude went 1-7 there. I would say that Cal has met his projection due to his power. Julio obviously hasn't, JP has had only one really good season as a hitter, Marte started off well and then got busted for PEDs at which point the air went out of the balloon. Arroyo? I don't think Vogie even looked him up. Finally, as we all know, Locklear and Young have not stood out at all hitting-wise. I just wonder what the hell is going through Vogie's mind as he clicks on "SUBMIT".

Just imagine if Vogie had been on the Mariners Forum in 1985, he'd be telling us about how the Mariner organization has done such a great job developing guys like Manny Castillo, Johnny Moses, Domingo Ramos, and Al "Choo Choo" Chambers.
Agree a little bit re: Cal -

The only thing that bothers me about his development is that he was a .275 hitter in the minors and he once had a 23-game hitting streak. He once hit in 32 of 35 games to start a season for Tacoma.

Where did the ability to contact a baseball go?

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Re: Seattle Beat Writers and BS About the Offense.

Post by D-train » Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:37 am

fyi JK hit .302 in AAA and .213 in MLB. I think the pitching is better.
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Re: Seattle Beat Writers and BS About the Offense.

Post by Seattle or Bust » Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:12 am

D-train wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:37 am
fyi JK hit .302 in AAA and .213 in MLB. I think the pitching is better.
Same story then... sure the pitching is better.

But isn't that what development is for?

Kelenic is a clear wart on the M's ability to develop hitters. They call him up and he can't hit an off-speed pitch to save his life. That's on development.

The one that will always piss me off is Evan White. Took a guy with platinum glove D who could have easily hit .270+ with 15-20 homers and forced him to bulk up and start swinging out of his ass at everything in a chase for power. You won't convince me that the sudden changes to his body and the change in approach didn't lead to all the injuries.

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Re: Seattle Beat Writers and BS About the Offense.

Post by GL_Storm » Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:31 am

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:32 am
DavidGee24 wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 11:04 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:57 am


??? Bro why are you so routinely bad at this.

Julio was supposed to be the next coming of Jesus. He put up a .734 OPS in his 3rd year in the majors when he's supposed to be Mike Trout. His bat has gotten worse each year in the majors. That's not supposed to happen.

Cal and his career .218 BA and .740 OPS? Yeah?

JP Crawford has had one good season with the bat. He's had 5 seasons of a .684 OPS or worse with the M's. He's a horrible hitter.

Noelvi Marte was technically the worst player in the majors last year over his 66 games. He put up -1.8 bWAR with a .539 OPS.

Arroyo is 20. They traded him at 18. He didn't play last year. WTF kind of development are you talking about?

The world seems down on Locklear. Perhaps he'll hit as a major leaguer but many don't think he will.

The same Cole Young that slugged .390 in AA?

Like do you read this shit before you post it?
Dude went 1-7 there. I would say that Cal has met his projection due to his power. Julio obviously hasn't, JP has had only one really good season as a hitter, Marte started off well and then got busted for PEDs at which point the air went out of the balloon. Arroyo? I don't think Vogie even looked him up. Finally, as we all know, Locklear and Young have not stood out at all hitting-wise. I just wonder what the hell is going through Vogie's mind as he clicks on "SUBMIT".

Just imagine if Vogie had been on the Mariners Forum in 1985, he'd be telling us about how the Mariner organization has done such a great job developing guys like Manny Castillo, Johnny Moses, Domingo Ramos, and Al "Choo Choo" Chambers.
Agree a little bit re: Cal -

The only thing that bothers me about his development is that he was a .275 hitter in the minors and he once had a 23-game hitting streak. He once hit in 32 of 35 games to start a season for Tacoma.

Where did the ability to contact a baseball go?
Pitching is better in the majors. You know this.

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