So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason
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Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason
So again shooting to miss the playoffs by a game, cool!
Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason
On the perception versus the reality, here are the Mariners' park- and league-adjusted OPS+ and ERA+ over the past three seasons (with American League rank in parentheses);
2024: 103 OPS+ (6th), 106 ERA+ (7th)
2023: 108 OPS+ (4th), 106 ERA+ (7th)
2022: 106 OPS+ (4th), 104 ERA+ (6th)
Last season was a down year for Seattle hitting but these three-year stats reflect the impact of T-Mobile Park.
2024: 103 OPS+ (6th), 106 ERA+ (7th)
2023: 108 OPS+ (4th), 106 ERA+ (7th)
2022: 106 OPS+ (4th), 104 ERA+ (6th)
Last season was a down year for Seattle hitting but these three-year stats reflect the impact of T-Mobile Park.
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Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason
That's IT?!? We couldn't even be bothered to make an offer better than that for a guy who's virtually guaranteed (even in Seattle) to hit 30-40 home runs with an OPS of about .800? "Pfffffft, we'd rather have Donovan Solano and Jorge Polanco's corpse!"Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 3:16 amAlonso re-signs with the Mets. 2 years, $54 million.
Oh how much more fun it would be to have him at 1B for $27M than paying Garver and Haniger nearly $30M to waste space.
Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason
And it was so dang easy to add a few key pieces. Burger is a 40 HR bat that you could have added for a couple of B prospects that were ranked 15-20 in the shitty Rangers system. FFS, he is pre-arb. No-brainer easy move.harmony wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:10 amThe updated FanGraphs WAR projections now have the Mariners fifth in the American League, narrowly ahead of other teams on the [projected] postseason bubble:
https://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.a ... &teamid=11
Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason
He hit 29 last year and his max is 34. How is that a 40 HR bat for a RH hitter in T Mobile? Don't need to exaggerate to show he would have been a better option than Polanco.Pharmabro wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 4:27 amAnd it was so dang easy to add a few key pieces. Burger is a 40 HR bat that you could have added for a couple of B prospects that were ranked 15-20 in the shitty Rangers system. FFS, he is pre-arb. No-brainer easy move.harmony wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:10 amThe updated FanGraphs WAR projections now have the Mariners fifth in the American League, narrowly ahead of other teams on the [projected] postseason bubble:
https://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.a ... &teamid=11
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Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason
Hmmmm. Maybe the locals are beginning to wise up?
https://sodomojo.com/mariners-fans-are- ... -offseason
https://sodomojo.com/mariners-fans-are- ... -offseason
Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason
Jake Burger's career OBP of .305 would almost certainly take a serious hit with Seattle. ZiPS currently projects Burger with a 2025 OPS of .295.D-train wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 3:14 pmHe hit 29 last year and his max is 34. How is that a 40 HR bat for a RH hitter in T Mobile? Don't need to exaggerate to show he would have been a better option than Polanco.Pharmabro wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 4:27 amAnd it was so dang easy to add a few key pieces. Burger is a 40 HR bat that you could have added for a couple of B prospects that were ranked 15-20 in the shitty Rangers system. FFS, he is pre-arb. No-brainer easy move.harmony wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 4:10 amThe updated FanGraphs WAR projections now have the Mariners fifth in the American League, narrowly ahead of other teams on the [projected] postseason bubble:
https://www.fangraphs.com/depthcharts.a ... &teamid=11
Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason
The average fWAR projection for Burger is 1.9 and the average for Polanco is $1.7.
If Burger has a better season John Stanton is likely going to ask Jerry why he didn't trade two meh prospects for him and save him about $6M.
If Burger has a better season John Stanton is likely going to ask Jerry why he didn't trade two meh prospects for him and save him about $6M.
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Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason
Just stunning that it took most so long...ddraig wrote: ↑Fri Feb 07, 2025 4:48 pmHmmmm. Maybe the locals are beginning to wise up?
https://sodomojo.com/mariners-fans-are- ... -offseason
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Re: So it begins, The official Hot Stove League Thread 2024-25 Offseason
When this offense inevitably struggles in April Jerry and Stanton better wear ear plugs to games.
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