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our buddies these days, they like it that we kill Iranians, and they have a bunch of oil
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o MELVILLE, N.Y. — Chris Levi’s fellow soldiers were sure he was dead. The Humvee he commanded in Baghdad had been torn apart by a projectile, and so had his body. When he awoke several minutes later, he followed his training, trying to assess his injuries.
“I tried to wiggle my toes, and I couldn’t move them,” he recalled. Fearing he had been paralyzed, he reached down to feel his lower body. “It’s kind of hard to describe,” he said. “You could feel wet meat, and I knew I lost my legs.”
The device that nearly killed Mr. Levi in 2008 was an improvised bomb called an explosively formed penetrator, or E.F.P. — a weapon that blasted a teardrop-shaped slug of molten copper through the passenger door of his armored Humvee.
Though it was fired by Shiite militia members in Iraq, Mr. Levi has sought for years to hold another party responsible: Iran.
He and dozens of other soldiers injured during the Iraq war, as well as the families of hundreds of dead service members, have pursued justice in federal court. They sued Iran’s government in an effort to prove that the attacks that took their limbs and loved ones were aided by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.
Their fight was little noticed, with limited hope of recovering significant damages despite a ruling last year in their favor. Then another form of justice came this month, when an American missile killed the man they hold most responsible, Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani.
His name may not have been well known to most Americans, but the general had long been a focus of anger for many wounded veterans and families of those killed in Iraq. American officials have blamed General Suleimani for a campaign of roadside bombs and other attacks that they say killed hundreds of troops at the height of the Iraq war, which took the lives of nearly 4,500 American service members and left more than 30,000 wounded.
“He was the leader of the group that killed Dad,” Kelli Hake, whose husband died in an E.F.P. attack, recalled telling her 13-year-old son when she saw the news of General Suleimani’s death flash on television.
Since 2007, the United States military has said that Iran, and specifically the Revolutionary Guard’s Quds Force, commanded by General Suleimani, provided Iraqi militias with the projectile weapons and the training needed to use them.
Last week, as White House claims that the general was killed to ward off imminent attacks on Americans were called into question, the administration sought to bolster its justification for the missile strike by also focusing on his role during the Iraq war. President Trump said in a televised statement on Wednesday that General Suleimani had “viciously wounded and murdered thousands of U.S. troops.”
The claim that Iran was partly responsible for losses in Iraq is at the heart of the lawsuit filed in February 2016 by more than 300 wounded veterans or relatives of dead service members.
The plaintiffs say the attacks at issue all had something in common: specialized weaponry or other materials or support provided by Iran. Primarily, that meant components for E.F.P. weapons, one of the most lethal devices wielded against Americans during the war. Using an explosive charge to launch a dense metal projectile at several times of the speed of sound, they could punch through the armor of almost any military vehicle.
Ms. Hake said she was skeptical when lawyers first approached her about the lawsuit. Although she might never see much money, she said she decided to join as a way to bring attention to Iran’s role in the attacks on her husband and others.
“I want it to be out there and known,” she said. Her son, Gage, was a toddler in March 2008 when his father, Staff Sgt. Christopher Hake, was killed by an E.F.P. that pierced the fuel tank of a Bradley fighting vehicle, setting it ablaze.
“I tried to wiggle my toes, and I couldn’t move them,” he recalled. Fearing he had been paralyzed, he reached down to feel his lower body. “It’s kind of hard to describe,” he said. “You could feel wet meat, and I knew I lost my legs.”
The device that nearly killed Mr. Levi in 2008 was an improvised bomb called an explosively formed penetrator, or E.F.P. — a weapon that blasted a teardrop-shaped slug of molten copper through the passenger door of his armored Humvee.
Though it was fired by Shiite militia members in Iraq, Mr. Levi has sought for years to hold another party responsible: Iran.
He and dozens of other soldiers injured during the Iraq war, as well as the families of hundreds of dead service members, have pursued justice in federal court. They sued Iran’s government in an effort to prove that the attacks that took their limbs and loved ones were aided by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.
Their fight was little noticed, with limited hope of recovering significant damages despite a ruling last year in their favor. Then another form of justice came this month, when an American missile killed the man they hold most responsible, Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani.
His name may not have been well known to most Americans, but the general had long been a focus of anger for many wounded veterans and families of those killed in Iraq. American officials have blamed General Suleimani for a campaign of roadside bombs and other attacks that they say killed hundreds of troops at the height of the Iraq war, which took the lives of nearly 4,500 American service members and left more than 30,000 wounded.
“He was the leader of the group that killed Dad,” Kelli Hake, whose husband died in an E.F.P. attack, recalled telling her 13-year-old son when she saw the news of General Suleimani’s death flash on television.
Since 2007, the United States military has said that Iran, and specifically the Revolutionary Guard’s Quds Force, commanded by General Suleimani, provided Iraqi militias with the projectile weapons and the training needed to use them.
Last week, as White House claims that the general was killed to ward off imminent attacks on Americans were called into question, the administration sought to bolster its justification for the missile strike by also focusing on his role during the Iraq war. President Trump said in a televised statement on Wednesday that General Suleimani had “viciously wounded and murdered thousands of U.S. troops.”
The claim that Iran was partly responsible for losses in Iraq is at the heart of the lawsuit filed in February 2016 by more than 300 wounded veterans or relatives of dead service members.
The plaintiffs say the attacks at issue all had something in common: specialized weaponry or other materials or support provided by Iran. Primarily, that meant components for E.F.P. weapons, one of the most lethal devices wielded against Americans during the war. Using an explosive charge to launch a dense metal projectile at several times of the speed of sound, they could punch through the armor of almost any military vehicle.
Ms. Hake said she was skeptical when lawyers first approached her about the lawsuit. Although she might never see much money, she said she decided to join as a way to bring attention to Iran’s role in the attacks on her husband and others.
“I want it to be out there and known,” she said. Her son, Gage, was a toddler in March 2008 when his father, Staff Sgt. Christopher Hake, was killed by an E.F.P. that pierced the fuel tank of a Bradley fighting vehicle, setting it ablaze.
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This is why I will never join a military to fight against my fellow members of humanity for the sake of bankers.Moe Gibbs wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:48 pmo MELVILLE, N.Y. — Chris Levi’s fellow soldiers were sure he was dead. The Humvee he commanded in Baghdad had been torn apart by a projectile, and so had his body. When he awoke several minutes later, he followed his training, trying to assess his injuries.
“I tried to wiggle my toes, and I couldn’t move them,” he recalled. Fearing he had been paralyzed, he reached down to feel his lower body. “It’s kind of hard to describe,” he said. “You could feel wet meat, and I knew I lost my legs.”
The device that nearly killed Mr. Levi in 2008 was an improvised bomb called an explosively formed penetrator, or E.F.P. — a weapon that blasted a teardrop-shaped slug of molten copper through the passenger door of his armored Humvee.
Though it was fired by Shiite militia members in Iraq, Mr. Levi has sought for years to hold another party responsible: Iran.
He and dozens of other soldiers injured during the Iraq war, as well as the families of hundreds of dead service members, have pursued justice in federal court. They sued Iran’s government in an effort to prove that the attacks that took their limbs and loved ones were aided by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.
Their fight was little noticed, with limited hope of recovering significant damages despite a ruling last year in their favor. Then another form of justice came this month, when an American missile killed the man they hold most responsible, Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani.
His name may not have been well known to most Americans, but the general had long been a focus of anger for many wounded veterans and families of those killed in Iraq. American officials have blamed General Suleimani for a campaign of roadside bombs and other attacks that they say killed hundreds of troops at the height of the Iraq war, which took the lives of nearly 4,500 American service members and left more than 30,000 wounded.
“He was the leader of the group that killed Dad,” Kelli Hake, whose husband died in an E.F.P. attack, recalled telling her 13-year-old son when she saw the news of General Suleimani’s death flash on television.
Since 2007, the United States military has said that Iran, and specifically the Revolutionary Guard’s Quds Force, commanded by General Suleimani, provided Iraqi militias with the projectile weapons and the training needed to use them.
Last week, as White House claims that the general was killed to ward off imminent attacks on Americans were called into question, the administration sought to bolster its justification for the missile strike by also focusing on his role during the Iraq war. President Trump said in a televised statement on Wednesday that General Suleimani had “viciously wounded and murdered thousands of U.S. troops.”
The claim that Iran was partly responsible for losses in Iraq is at the heart of the lawsuit filed in February 2016 by more than 300 wounded veterans or relatives of dead service members.
The plaintiffs say the attacks at issue all had something in common: specialized weaponry or other materials or support provided by Iran. Primarily, that meant components for E.F.P. weapons, one of the most lethal devices wielded against Americans during the war. Using an explosive charge to launch a dense metal projectile at several times of the speed of sound, they could punch through the armor of almost any military vehicle.
Ms. Hake said she was skeptical when lawyers first approached her about the lawsuit. Although she might never see much money, she said she decided to join as a way to bring attention to Iran’s role in the attacks on her husband and others.
“I want it to be out there and known,” she said. Her son, Gage, was a toddler in March 2008 when his father, Staff Sgt. Christopher Hake, was killed by an E.F.P. that pierced the fuel tank of a Bradley fighting vehicle, setting it ablaze.
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Our military has become a path to US Citizenship for some foreigners. For some of our own kids who were failing at life the military has served as a Rude Awakening and a last chance for millions of young adults to learn a marketable skill, develop a work ethic and become competitive in the game of life. The risk of course has always been if a war starts.DanielVogelbach wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:26 pmThis is why I will never join a military to fight against my fellow members of humanity for the sake of bankers.Moe Gibbs wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2020 11:48 pmo MELVILLE, N.Y. — Chris Levi’s fellow soldiers were sure he was dead. The Humvee he commanded in Baghdad had been torn apart by a projectile, and so had his body. When he awoke several minutes later, he followed his training, trying to assess his injuries.
“I tried to wiggle my toes, and I couldn’t move them,” he recalled. Fearing he had been paralyzed, he reached down to feel his lower body. “It’s kind of hard to describe,” he said. “You could feel wet meat, and I knew I lost my legs.”
The device that nearly killed Mr. Levi in 2008 was an improvised bomb called an explosively formed penetrator, or E.F.P. — a weapon that blasted a teardrop-shaped slug of molten copper through the passenger door of his armored Humvee.
Though it was fired by Shiite militia members in Iraq, Mr. Levi has sought for years to hold another party responsible: Iran.
He and dozens of other soldiers injured during the Iraq war, as well as the families of hundreds of dead service members, have pursued justice in federal court. They sued Iran’s government in an effort to prove that the attacks that took their limbs and loved ones were aided by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.
Their fight was little noticed, with limited hope of recovering significant damages despite a ruling last year in their favor. Then another form of justice came this month, when an American missile killed the man they hold most responsible, Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani.
His name may not have been well known to most Americans, but the general had long been a focus of anger for many wounded veterans and families of those killed in Iraq. American officials have blamed General Suleimani for a campaign of roadside bombs and other attacks that they say killed hundreds of troops at the height of the Iraq war, which took the lives of nearly 4,500 American service members and left more than 30,000 wounded.
“He was the leader of the group that killed Dad,” Kelli Hake, whose husband died in an E.F.P. attack, recalled telling her 13-year-old son when she saw the news of General Suleimani’s death flash on television.
Since 2007, the United States military has said that Iran, and specifically the Revolutionary Guard’s Quds Force, commanded by General Suleimani, provided Iraqi militias with the projectile weapons and the training needed to use them.
Last week, as White House claims that the general was killed to ward off imminent attacks on Americans were called into question, the administration sought to bolster its justification for the missile strike by also focusing on his role during the Iraq war. President Trump said in a televised statement on Wednesday that General Suleimani had “viciously wounded and murdered thousands of U.S. troops.”
The claim that Iran was partly responsible for losses in Iraq is at the heart of the lawsuit filed in February 2016 by more than 300 wounded veterans or relatives of dead service members.
The plaintiffs say the attacks at issue all had something in common: specialized weaponry or other materials or support provided by Iran. Primarily, that meant components for E.F.P. weapons, one of the most lethal devices wielded against Americans during the war. Using an explosive charge to launch a dense metal projectile at several times of the speed of sound, they could punch through the armor of almost any military vehicle.
Ms. Hake said she was skeptical when lawyers first approached her about the lawsuit. Although she might never see much money, she said she decided to join as a way to bring attention to Iran’s role in the attacks on her husband and others.
“I want it to be out there and known,” she said. Her son, Gage, was a toddler in March 2008 when his father, Staff Sgt. Christopher Hake, was killed by an E.F.P. that pierced the fuel tank of a Bradley fighting vehicle, setting it ablaze.
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Tax money comes in, and joining the military is a way to get your hands on some of it. Training, benefits, and cash that outweigh what you could get for similar efforts in the civilian world. Police work is kind of similar. No disrespect, but it's mostly driving around like a taxi driver. Only difference is you might take a bullet one night. Sad though that politicians don't send their own kids into battle. Instead they go to Yale.Moe Gibbs wrote: ↑Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:11 amOur military has become a path to US Citizenship for some foreigners. For some of our own kids who were failing at life the military has served as a Rude Awakening and a last chance for millions of young adults to learn a marketable skill, develop a work ethic and become competitive in the game of life. The risk of course has always been if a war starts.
I don't hate on anybody for signing up. If you can't beat 'em, then join em as they say. I don't even hate on people that have a bunch of nationalist pride. But, I do think that they need US to fight THEIR wars. I typically don't speak in terms of us and them, but in this case I will make that exception. I have no proof, but it's my firm gut belief that these wars we're fighting are not benefitting us. It's an interesting thought experiment to think if we could somehow convince people not to become soldiers. It's the same thing on a lesser scale with corporations. They're the ones who can offer the paycheck, the job training, and the benefits. I'm fairly guilty been working for these companies, shopping on Amazon, throwing away plastic, etc. A damn heathen. But I draw the line at military service.