Cal vs. Judge for MVP

[D-train]

Cal is the top one and Judge is the bottom one.

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[Donn Beach]

"It is called the Most Valuable Player Award. It is not the Best Player award." Nightengale writes. "He (Judge) shouldn't be the 2025 MVP. This award belongs to Raleigh, who has defied the imagination with his historical season, going where no catcher has ever gone before."

[Mesully11]

It seems like a lot of fans think it's the Most valuable Yankee award.

[Captain 97]

Its going to be a really close vote. I think Cal had all the momentum when he hit 60 but the last 4 days may have swung things back towards Judge a bit.

[Donn Beach]

here is the Nightengale article that quote was from, interesting article
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/m ... 398917007/

[desbcoach]

Judge defense hurt the Yankees,bad in the 7th unable to throw

[bpj]

Might come down to the postseason who the real mvp is.

They've been playing great, hopefully they can keep it up.

Best lineup we've had in years.

Cant even complain about the middle of the order since Cal has become one.

Even Polanco became the 30HR/600 player ice believed he would be.

MVP voting is before the Post season.

Man you seemed so sure when you said this I didn't even question it...

Seems like Cal's played himself into being the frontrunner.

Unless they've already voted and it's just announced later?

But Grok says voting takes place shortly after the World Series.

[Donn Beach]

It's already voted, all the awards are. They wait later to announce so they have shit to talk about during the winter

The Baseball Writers' Association of America (BBWAA) votes on the MVP award at the conclusion of each season before the postseason starts.

[harmony]

The Sporting News has named Cal Raleigh the MLB Player of the Year:

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/sea ... CO2qIkigMQ

[DanielVogelbach]

It's not called the "best player" award on purpose. They want to make it ambiguous.

The whole point of the HOF and MVP is to give sportswriters something to write about.

Sometimes people say, "nobody was more valuable to his team" than so-and-so, but I don't think that's how it should be defined. You shouldn't be punished for being on a good team or rewarded for being on a bad team.

Bottom line, though, is that the position matters. If we're doing a straight draft and we're building teams from scratch and can pick any player in the league in 2025 I'm taking Cal Raleigh. How can you not consider that he's doing it all from the catcher position? Then someone else takes Aaron Judge and on your next pick you can still get a 1B/DH that can mash a baseball.

Forget about the award. The "value" is already obtained and even if he only hits 35 home runs from the catcher position that will still be massive. It's such a huge competitive advantage. No guarantees on WS, but look at Johnny Bench, Ivan Rodriguez, Salvador Perez. It continues to be rare to have a catcher that can hit for big numbers, so it's just huge that the Ms have that going for them right now. Plus, he did it all AFTER signing a massive contract, so you know that he's driven to be great.

I think he'll probably get the award. I think the post season is not supposed to count, but the voters can't help but be swayed? is that how it goes? I don't care about the award that much.