D-Trains Off season plan

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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by D-train » Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:07 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 5:27 pm
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-free-agent ... 23-mlb-1-B

A panel of MLB experts predict the M's to land Murakami :P

Not that, that means anything.
Once again Experts = Idiots The are only saying that because it makes sense with zero regard for how we operate in terms of risk aversion and budget.
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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by Seattle or Bust » Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:20 pm

D-train wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:07 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 5:27 pm
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-free-agent ... 23-mlb-1-B

A panel of MLB experts predict the M's to land Murakami :P

Not that, that means anything.
Once again Experts = Idiots The are only saying that because it makes sense with zero regard for how we operate in terms of risk aversion and budget.
It is incredible that people in the industry can be so apart when it comes to projecting things.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/468 ... rojections

ESPN thinks he'll get just 5 years $80 million. CBS thinks 6 years $140M. MLBTR predicts 8 years $180M. The Athletic thinks 8 years $150M.

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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by D-train » Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:36 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:20 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:07 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 5:27 pm
https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-free-agent ... 23-mlb-1-B

A panel of MLB experts predict the M's to land Murakami :P

Not that, that means anything.
Once again Experts = Idiots The are only saying that because it makes sense with zero regard for how we operate in terms of risk aversion and budget.
It is incredible that people in the industry can be so apart when it comes to projecting things.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/468 ... rojections

ESPN thinks he'll get just 5 years $80 million. CBS thinks 6 years $140M. MLBTR predicts 8 years $180M. The Athletic thinks 8 years $150M.
Tells you what a crap shoot he is. Believe me if we signed him I would be happy and maybe I am just dining on sour grapes because I know we won't. I am thinking something like 5 x $20M
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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by TridentHawk » Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:39 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Nov 08, 2025 5:37 pm
Trade Kirby and Peete for Skubal. Tigers get 3 years of a good TOR starter and a high upside OF prospect. M's get a year of the Ace of Aces.

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Trade Arroyo for 25 yo Abner Uribe. How cool to have a guy named after the inventor of baseball who is also a lights out reliever. 1.67 ERA, 2.75 FIP and 90Ks in 75 IPs. Brewers get a kid who has absolutely raked his entire minor league career and is very close to his big league debut despite a hiccup late in the season in AA. I would be happy to add more to get this done.
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Trade JC and Celesten for Donovan and Joshua Baez, a 22 yo RH OFer that had a .883 OPS in AA last season. Perfect replacement for Randy in 2027. Obviously Donovan would play 2B.

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Sign Okamoto to play 1B. 4 x 15M

Line up:
Julio CF
Donovan 2B
Cal C
Randy LF
Okamoto 1B
Canzone DH
Raley/Robles RF
JP SS
Williamson 3B pray his late summer swing change and power is real or bring up Emerson if not

Bench
Raley
Robles
Rivas
Ford

Rotation
Skubal
Woo
Gilbert
Castillo
Miller

Pen
Munoz
Brash
Uribe
Bizardo
Speier
Santos
Vargas
Kowar
To be honest, I'd still rather have Naylor at first base. The reason is simple. He puts the bat to ball. And with this lineup, with the propensity to strike out at the rate that they do, having somebody that can consistently put the ball in play, helps immeasurably, as was shown. It could very well be that Okamoto is that player, but there's no track record yet. And this season is too important to have a chance taken. I'd rather put the money where it can be spent with the knowledge of being spent safely. Just my $0.02...

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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by D-train » Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:44 pm

Yes Naylor is the way to go for sure in terms of proven commodity and especially a guy that can hit in T Mobile and that is the most likely outcome. I have faith in Oka due to his 11% K rate which is insane for a power hitter albeit in Japan. He also has GG defense. Naylor isn't close to that.

FAR more likely they go with Naylor but Oka is a good fall back. Would be great if they signed them both and put Oka at third. Think Geno if Kd every 9 PAs instead of every three PAs.
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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by TridentHawk » Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:52 pm

D-train wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:44 pm
Yes Naylor is the way to go for sure in terms of proven commodity and especially a guy that can hit in T Mobile and that is the most likely outcome. I have faith in Oka due to his 11% K rate which is insane for a power hitter albeit in Japan. He also has GG defense. Naylor isn't close to that.

FAR more likely they go with Naylor but Oka is a good fall back. Would be great if they signed them both and put Oka at third. Think Geno if Kd every 9 PAs instead of every three PAs.
Can totally get behind that.

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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by harmony » Sun Nov 09, 2025 9:00 pm

D-train wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:44 pm
Yes Naylor is the way to go for sure in terms of proven commodity and especially a guy that can hit in T Mobile and that is the most likely outcome. I have faith in Oka due to his 11% K rate which is insane for a power hitter albeit in Japan. He also has GG defense. Naylor isn't close to that.

FAR more likely they go with Naylor but Oka is a good fall back. Would be great if they signed them both and put Oka at third. Think Geno if Kd every 9 PAs instead of every three PAs.
The 2026 projections for Josh Naylor and Kazuma Okamoto:

JN 515 PA, .336 OBP, .459 SLG, 119 wRC+, 2.5 WAR
KO 494 PA, .340 OBP, .451 SLG, 117 wRC+, 2.4 WAR

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2026-top-50 ... ee-agents/

Scroll down to Nos. 11 and 21.

Okamoto is one year older than Naylor.

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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by TridentHawk » Sun Nov 09, 2025 9:22 pm

TridentHawk wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:52 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:44 pm
Yes Naylor is the way to go for sure in terms of proven commodity and especially a guy that can hit in T Mobile and that is the most likely outcome. I have faith in Oka due to his 11% K rate which is insane for a power hitter albeit in Japan. He also has GG defense. Naylor isn't close to that.

FAR more likely they go with Naylor but Oka is a good fall back. Would be great if they signed them both and put Oka at third. Think Geno if Kd every 9 PAs instead of every three PAs.
Can totally get behind that.
Also, I don't want to toot my own horn or anything. But offlast season, I called for Josh Naylor and Brandon Donovan to be traded for. (shrug) :-)

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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by Bil522 » Mon Nov 10, 2025 12:31 am

TridentHawk wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 9:22 pm
TridentHawk wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:52 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:44 pm
Yes Naylor is the way to go for sure in terms of proven commodity and especially a guy that can hit in T Mobile and that is the most likely outcome. I have faith in Oka due to his 11% K rate which is insane for a power hitter albeit in Japan. He also has GG defense. Naylor isn't close to that.

FAR more likely they go with Naylor but Oka is a good fall back. Would be great if they signed them both and put Oka at third. Think Geno if Kd every 9 PAs instead of every three PAs.
Can totally get behind that.
Also, I don't want to toot my own horn or anything. But offlast season, I called for Josh Naylor and Brandon Donovan to be traded for. (shrug) :-)
Honk Honk!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: D-Trains Off season plan

Post by D-train » Mon Nov 10, 2025 1:28 am

harmony wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 9:00 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:44 pm
Yes Naylor is the way to go for sure in terms of proven commodity and especially a guy that can hit in T Mobile and that is the most likely outcome. I have faith in Oka due to his 11% K rate which is insane for a power hitter albeit in Japan. He also has GG defense. Naylor isn't close to that.

FAR more likely they go with Naylor but Oka is a good fall back. Would be great if they signed them both and put Oka at third. Think Geno if Kd every 9 PAs instead of every three PAs.
The 2026 projections for Josh Naylor and Kazuma Okamoto:

JN 515 PA, .336 OBP, .459 SLG, 119 wRC+, 2.5 WAR
KO 494 PA, .340 OBP, .451 SLG, 117 wRC+, 2.4 WAR

https://blogs.fangraphs.com/2026-top-50 ... ee-agents/

Scroll down to Nos. 11 and 21.

Okamoto is one year older than Naylor.
Wow that is wild.
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