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Re: Around the League

Post by D-train » Sun Nov 09, 2025 5:46 am

That's why I laugh when people suggest that we should just blinding listen to all those clowns that are wrong more than they are right. And we should never question the M's FO because they have WAY more data than we do.
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Re: Around the League

Post by Donn Beach » Sun Nov 09, 2025 7:05 am

D-train wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 5:46 am
That's why I laugh when people suggest that we should just blinding listen to all those clowns that are wrong more than they are right. And we should never question the M's FO because they have WAY more data than we do.
Who suggests that we blindly listen, what it does is give us something to talk about. What the pundits have that I don't is the time and desire to follow the entire league closely. I'm curious about their opinions because for me I see the seahawks in a vacuum. But in the end it's just another opinion.

The draft is something where we blindly follow as much as anything . If the seahawks draft a guy that doesn't fit the bloggersphere conceived ranking everyone freaks out

Speaking of opinions , I meant to post another mid-season awards deal, one from NFL. Com. The seahawks get a lot less love on theirs. It was mostly Colts and Patriots. Which I think makes sense really, those are turnaround stories which I haven't followed at all. They give JS GM of the year

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Re: Around the League

Post by D-train » Sun Nov 09, 2025 4:45 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 7:05 am
D-train wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 5:46 am
That's why I laugh when people suggest that we should just blinding listen to all those clowns that are wrong more than they are right. And we should never question the M's FO because they have WAY more data than we do.
Who suggests that we blindly listen, what it does is give us something to talk about. What the pundits have that I don't is the time and desire to follow the entire league closely. I'm curious about their opinions because for me I see the seahawks in a vacuum. But in the end it's just another opinion.

The draft is something where we blindly follow as much as anything . If the seahawks draft a guy that doesn't fit the bloggersphere conceived ranking everyone freaks out

Speaking of opinions , I meant to post another mid-season awards deal, one from NFL. Com. The seahawks get a lot less love on theirs. It was mostly Colts and Patriots. Which I think makes sense really, those are turnaround stories which I haven't followed at all. They give JS GM of the year
I have been told hundreds of times on X that I should never question the M's FO because I don't have all the data that they do.
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Re: Around the League

Post by maoling » Sun Nov 09, 2025 4:57 pm

I can't believe the single morning network game they are shoveling at us is the Giants v. Bears.

You have Ravens-Vikings, Patriots-Bucs and Jags-Texans and they feed us maybe the dirty dog morning game of the week.

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Re: Around the League

Post by D-train » Sun Nov 09, 2025 8:10 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 7:05 am
D-train wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 5:46 am
That's why I laugh when people suggest that we should just blinding listen to all those clowns that are wrong more than they are right. And we should never question the M's FO because they have WAY more data than we do.
Who suggests that we blindly listen, what it does is give us something to talk about. What the pundits have that I don't is the time and desire to follow the entire league closely. I'm curious about their opinions because for me I see the seahawks in a vacuum. But in the end it's just another opinion.

The draft is something where we blindly follow as much as anything . If the seahawks draft a guy that doesn't fit the bloggersphere conceived ranking everyone freaks out

Speaking of opinions , I meant to post another mid-season awards deal, one from NFL. Com. The seahawks get a lot less love on theirs. It was mostly Colts and Patriots. Which I think makes sense really, those are turnaround stories which I haven't followed at all. They give JS GM of the year
Here is another example. At least this guy admitted he was wrong which probably happens 1.57% of the time.

https://12thmanrising.com/nfl-expert-wa ... e-seahawks
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Re: Around the League

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Nov 10, 2025 12:04 pm

D-train wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 4:45 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 7:05 am
D-train wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 5:46 am
That's why I laugh when people suggest that we should just blinding listen to all those clowns that are wrong more than they are right. And we should never question the M's FO because they have WAY more data than we do.
Who suggests that we blindly listen, what it does is give us something to talk about. What the pundits have that I don't is the time and desire to follow the entire league closely. I'm curious about their opinions because for me I see the seahawks in a vacuum. But in the end it's just another opinion.

The draft is something where we blindly follow as much as anything . If the seahawks draft a guy that doesn't fit the bloggersphere conceived ranking everyone freaks out

Speaking of opinions , I meant to post another mid-season awards deal, one from NFL. Com. The seahawks get a lot less love on theirs. It was mostly Colts and Patriots. Which I think makes sense really, those are turnaround stories which I haven't followed at all. They give JS GM of the year
I have been told hundreds of times on X that I should never question the M's FO because I don't have all the data that they do.
I don't see them as the same thing, one is another opinion, the other are decisions. And they are based on information we don't have. You can question whatever you feel like questioning and we do. But JS is making the big bucks to make the decisions, everyone else gets to have opinions about those decisions. Everyone questioned what JS was up to. I did, but I have confidence in him to generally make the correct decision. It's not like I want it crowd sourced or something. What gets me is a month from now there will be another decision and the chorus will begin again, JS is an idiot. No he's not an idiot, he's already proven that.

What I admire about JS is he has the guts to make tough decisions. Any GM could have caved and re-signed Geno and DK. It would have been accepted as the correct thing to do. We'd be saddled with mediocre players and stifling contracts trying to make the playoffs. That's the alternate reality. And it would have been generally accepted as the correct one. JS could have gone on shuffling his pencils. JS saw beyond it and was willing to risk the flack to change it.

And I think that applies to his offensive line as well. Everyone roasted him over the line and everyone had the same solution, pay for talent. Again JS bucked the popular opinion and focused on coaching. What strikes me is I feel like his vision went beyond Pete's in terms of how to approach the coaching.

Everyone was focused on Pete's influence over player decisions when the story really was the coaching decisions. It was the coaching decisions that changed with Pete's departure more than player decisions. It was JS's team all along, what changed was how it was coached

JS is now in charge of coaching decisions, and I would argue that's really where the change lies. That's really what JS gained control of. JS is considered to be a clever talent evaluator but I think maybe he really has a grasp of how it should be coached as well.

From when Pete was canned
"Our set-up earlier was ... the coaching staff did not fall under my umbrella, and now it will," Schneider said during a news conference Tuesday. "It's not necessarily a Jody Allen decision or choosing this person or that person, it's just a contractual situation

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Re: Around the League

Post by D-train » Mon Nov 10, 2025 2:30 pm

So who decides how that contract will read?? Some football God??? LOL
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Re: Around the League

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Nov 10, 2025 2:43 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Nov 10, 2025 2:30 pm
So who decides how that contract will read?? Some football God??? LOL
Well Jody has staff, Bert Kolde comes to mind, Chuck Arnold

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Re: Around the League

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Mon Nov 10, 2025 5:06 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Nov 10, 2025 12:04 pm
And I think that applies to his offensive line as well. Everyone roasted him over the line and everyone had the same solution, pay for talent. Again JS bucked the popular opinion and focused on coaching. What strikes me is I feel like his vision went beyond Pete's in terms of how to approach the coaching.
Not quite. The main solution people wanted to see was using a high draft pick or two to improve the line and that's what he did. I wish he had gone with another instead of Milroe but whatever. There were dome FAs on their final years he could have signed to play RG and we'll see if that comes back to bite them.

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Re: Around the League

Post by Michael K. » Mon Nov 10, 2025 5:16 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 3:49 am
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sun Nov 09, 2025 2:34 am
Yeah i remember a lot of pundits seemed to think the Raiders were going to be competitive although not a playoff team.
It wasn't predicting the raiders making the playoffs, but generally speaking everybody seemed more impressed with their off season than the seahawks, the pundits liked the additions, the stat nerds thought they added more production, and the gamblers thought they had drawn even terms of expected wins. Looking back seems pretty hard to believe.
Six fucking teams had worst Super Bowl odds than the Raiders. I just don't get why you keep banging this drum. No one thought they would compete, NO ONE that matters or has half a brain that is.

As for Darnold? The signs were there....the last two games he played, with the season on the line? He was dogshit. Even Seattle had their doubts, that's why his contract is written the way it is...and if other teams had thought otherwise? Do you think Sam signs a contract written the way it was?

I don't know that you can blame anyone for doubting Sam Darnold....the issue is how he has flourished under Kubiak, IMO. I was dead wrong on how he would impact this offense. I thought the 49er game was about what we would see all year. The players are somewhat overperforming, I mean, how the HELL is JSN always open? But this offense is light years better than anything we have seen before. Doing nothing but run the football in the second half because the game is over? That deep ball to JSN?

I said it in the game thread, but I don't remember a run like this since the end of Russ's Rookie Season when we destroyed the Cards, Bills and then Niners. Then played our nemesis the Rams and won a hard fought game to secure the 1 seed. That was almost 13 years ago!

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