The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Sun Nov 23, 2025 2:27 am

Pharmabro wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 2:23 am
D-train wrote:
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I think I liked what JRod did a lot better. He says he needs 3 days off after playing a few innings in an all star game? And the break was 4 days already?

Prima-donna!
I have thought about it. Scumbags broke into his home and stole $400k of his shit. Seems like a one time issue. Julio handled it better but I would be willing to over look it giving his talent.
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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by Pharmabro » Sun Nov 23, 2025 3:51 am

D-train wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 2:27 am
Pharmabro wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 2:23 am
D-train wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 1:30 am
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I think I liked what JRod did a lot better. He says he needs 3 days off after playing a few innings in an all star game? And the break was 4 days already?

Prima-donna!
I have thought about it. Scumbags broke into his home and stole $400k of his shit. Seems like a one time issue. Julio handled it better but I would be willing to over look it giving his talent.
I had forgot about that until you reminded me. I guess if something like that had happened it may take a few days to sort out security. I am assuming he has a wife and kids. I was in home construction and know that unless you have the resources of the White House, you're a naked baby.

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by Donn Beach » Sun Nov 23, 2025 10:33 am

Bleacher report blub on Marte from their, most likely to get traded article. Like I said, when a truly premiere player comes available if you're in the hunt for a WS you got to consider it. So what if it's an anchor four years from now, leave the bean counting to the bean counters
The tough reality for the Diamondbacks and Marte is that it's probably now or never for a trade.

He has been outstanding over the past three seasons, batting .283/.368/.519 with FanGraphs rating his offense, defense and overall WAR since the beginning of 2023 as virtually identical to that of Mookie Betts. No second baseman can hold a candle to what Marte has brought to the table as of late.

But we're talking about a 32-year-old middle infielder who is still owed more than $100 million for the next six seasons. We're also talking about a Diamondbacks team that—in its present state of waiting for Corbin Burnes to return in 2027—might have one of the three worst pitching staffs in all of baseball.

Teams realistically trying to win the World Series in 2026 would love to take on Marte's contract, even if it could become a bit of an albatross for 2029-31. And if those offers get desperate enough, the Snakes may need to take one
What if they had spent the $100 MIL on ketel instead of Naylor? Not that it was possible, sink the dough in second base. If you're dipoto and Stanton, you have to at least dream about adding ketel a little, it has to cross your mind.

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by Big_Maple » Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:04 pm

Jim Bowden, in an article in The Athletic, offer 5 packages that could work for a Skubal trade. He suggests that Mariners could pull it off with this package:

Potential trade return: RHP Bryce Miller, RHP Ryan Sloan, C Harry Ford, RHP Teddy McGraw and RHP Michael Morales

I’d do that in a heartbeat. Of our five starting pitchers, Miller and his bone spur elbow would be the one I’d be most willing to part with.

https://archive.ph/akVjs

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Post by D-train » Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:11 pm

He only needs to put up 14 WAR to be worth his contract. Seems very doable. Irrelevant if he is overpaid the last couple years. People are so hung up on that but they shouldn't be because it is completely irrelevant:

2024 6.8 WAR 136 games
2025 4.4 WAR 126 games
2026 5.0 WAR
2027 4.0 WAR
2028 3.0 WAR
2029 2.0 WAR
2030 1.0 WAR
2031 0.0 WAR

That is 15 WAR so he would be worth more than he was paid.
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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Sun Nov 23, 2025 5:04 pm

Big_Maple wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:04 pm
Jim Bowden, in an article in The Athletic, offer 5 packages that could work for a Skubal trade. He suggests that Mariners could pull it off with this package:

Potential trade return: RHP Bryce Miller, RHP Ryan Sloan, C Harry Ford, RHP Teddy McGraw and RHP Michael Morales

I’d do that in a heartbeat. Of our five starting pitchers, Miller and his bone spur elbow would be the one I’d be most willing to part with.

https://archive.ph/akVjs
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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by GL_Storm » Sun Nov 23, 2025 7:31 pm

D-train wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 5:04 pm
Big_Maple wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:04 pm
Jim Bowden, in an article in The Athletic, offer 5 packages that could work for a Skubal trade. He suggests that Mariners could pull it off with this package:

Potential trade return: RHP Bryce Miller, RHP Ryan Sloan, C Harry Ford, RHP Teddy McGraw and RHP Michael Morales

I’d do that in a heartbeat. Of our five starting pitchers, Miller and his bone spur elbow would be the one I’d be most willing to part with.

https://archive.ph/akVjs
Screenshot 2025-11-23 090406.png
I've been looking at prospect reports on Ryan Sloan and for me he's untouchable. I think there's a non-zero chance that he's the #1 prospect in baseball a year from now and that he starts the 2027 season in the major league rotation.

I'm also less enthused about Skubal than the rest of you. He's good, but he's hittable.

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by Donn Beach » Sun Nov 23, 2025 7:43 pm

GL_Storm wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 7:31 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 5:04 pm
Big_Maple wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:04 pm
Jim Bowden, in an article in The Athletic, offer 5 packages that could work for a Skubal trade. He suggests that Mariners could pull it off with this package:

Potential trade return: RHP Bryce Miller, RHP Ryan Sloan, C Harry Ford, RHP Teddy McGraw and RHP Michael Morales

I’d do that in a heartbeat. Of our five starting pitchers, Miller and his bone spur elbow would be the one I’d be most willing to part with.

https://archive.ph/akVjs
Screenshot 2025-11-23 090406.png
I've been looking at prospect reports on Ryan Sloan and for me he's untouchable. I think there's a non-zero chance that he's the #1 prospect in baseball a year from now and that he starts the 2027 season in the major league rotation.

I'm also less enthused about Skubal than the rest of you. He's good, but he's hittable.
Yeah, with the mariners going 4-0 in his starts it's hard for me to see him as invincible

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Sun Nov 23, 2025 8:23 pm

GL_Storm wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 7:31 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 5:04 pm
Big_Maple wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 4:04 pm
Jim Bowden, in an article in The Athletic, offer 5 packages that could work for a Skubal trade. He suggests that Mariners could pull it off with this package:

Potential trade return: RHP Bryce Miller, RHP Ryan Sloan, C Harry Ford, RHP Teddy McGraw and RHP Michael Morales

I’d do that in a heartbeat. Of our five starting pitchers, Miller and his bone spur elbow would be the one I’d be most willing to part with.

https://archive.ph/akVjs
Screenshot 2025-11-23 090406.png
I've been looking at prospect reports on Ryan Sloan and for me he's untouchable. I think there's a non-zero chance that he's the #1 prospect in baseball a year from now and that he starts the 2027 season in the major league rotation.

I'm also less enthused about Skubal than the rest of you. He's good, but he's hittable.
Some guy on X was arguing that he didn't care if it was Sloan or JC in a Marte trade. Crazy.
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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Sun Nov 23, 2025 11:17 pm

Good old fashioned 1 for 1 swap of MLB players. Nimmo for Semien.
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