A plan for the 3x trade favorites 3.0

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Re: A plan for the 3x trade favorites 3.0

Post by D-train » Mon Nov 24, 2025 1:57 am

GL_Storm wrote:
Mon Nov 24, 2025 12:09 am
I don't think the Mariners are seriously pursuing any of these players. Trading for Skubal just isn't their style and taking on the rest of Ketel Marte's contract doesn't fit any known pattern of behavior by this front office. Brendan Donovan does seem like a very Mariners-ish type of player but I think they're more inclined to stand pat with Cole Young and see what he can do in a full season, and I don't believe they would acquire Donovan to play third base. So most likely it's Young at 2B and Williamson at 3B. There's also an outside chance Suarez's market doesn't materialize and they sign him to a one-year deal to play 3B, in which case I like Williamson as a backup infielder/utility player. I like Rivas in that role as well. I think he's an underrated player.

I think they want to sign Polanco. If they don't sign Polanco, I wonder what the plan B there could be. Maybe a trade for Brandon Lowe or Yandy Diaz? In my mind, Lowe would make more sense as a potential backup for Cole Young at 2B.

I could see them trading prospects for relievers. Maybe Raley goes in one of those deals.
If they go with both Young AND BW in the OD lineup...2 600 OPS guys all that good will with the Naylor trade will be gone and they will rightfully Destroyed by the media and fanbase. Trade for Donovan is the minimum bar. Let Cole and Ben battle it out in ST and Donovan replaces the loser.
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Re: A plan for the 3x trade favorites 3.0

Post by D-train » Mon Nov 24, 2025 1:58 am

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Mon Nov 24, 2025 12:23 am
GL_Storm wrote:
Mon Nov 24, 2025 12:09 am
I don't think the Mariners are seriously pursuing any of these players. Trading for Skubal just isn't their style and taking on the rest of Ketel Marte's contract doesn't fit any known pattern of behavior by this front office. Brendan Donovan does seem like a very Mariners-ish type of player but I think they're more inclined to stand pat with Cole Young and see what he can do in a full season, and I don't believe they would acquire Donovan to play third base. So most likely it's Young at 2B and Williamson at 3B. There's also an outside chance Suarez's market doesn't materialize and they sign him to a one-year deal to play 3B, in which case I like Williamson as a backup infielder/utility player. I like Rivas in that role as well. I think he's an underrated player.

I think they want to sign Polanco. If they don't sign Polanco, I wonder what the plan B there could be. Maybe a trade for Brandon Lowe or Yandy Diaz? In my mind, Lowe would make more sense as a potential backup for Cole Young at 2B.

I could see them trading prospects for relievers. Maybe Raley goes in one of those deals.
Exactly.

The only player I think they’d realistically trade for is Donovan. I’ve said many times I don’t think Skubal or Marte are realistic.

I’m just throwing compensation out there b/c many people want to keep talking about them. Cool, it’s fun.
Agree with all that.
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Re: A plan for the 3x trade favorites 3.0

Post by GL_Storm » Mon Nov 24, 2025 2:30 am

D-train wrote:
Mon Nov 24, 2025 1:57 am
GL_Storm wrote:
Mon Nov 24, 2025 12:09 am
I don't think the Mariners are seriously pursuing any of these players. Trading for Skubal just isn't their style and taking on the rest of Ketel Marte's contract doesn't fit any known pattern of behavior by this front office. Brendan Donovan does seem like a very Mariners-ish type of player but I think they're more inclined to stand pat with Cole Young and see what he can do in a full season, and I don't believe they would acquire Donovan to play third base. So most likely it's Young at 2B and Williamson at 3B. There's also an outside chance Suarez's market doesn't materialize and they sign him to a one-year deal to play 3B, in which case I like Williamson as a backup infielder/utility player. I like Rivas in that role as well. I think he's an underrated player.

I think they want to sign Polanco. If they don't sign Polanco, I wonder what the plan B there could be. Maybe a trade for Brandon Lowe or Yandy Diaz? In my mind, Lowe would make more sense as a potential backup for Cole Young at 2B.

I could see them trading prospects for relievers. Maybe Raley goes in one of those deals.
If they go with both Young AND BW in the OD lineup...2 600 OPS guys all that good will with the Naylor trade will be gone and they will rightfully Destroyed by the media and fanbase. Trade for Donovan is the minimum bar. Let Cole and Ben battle it out in ST and Donovan replaces the loser.
Nah. There's barely any sports media in Seattle and not that many fans that closely follow these things like we do here. People do care a lot about Seahawks and Huskies, but nobody gets all that worked up about the Mariners. A trade for Donovan could happen, but it's more something that we're dreaming up. And personally I don't really care. He seems like a very mid player to me.

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Re: A plan for the 3x trade favorites 3.0

Post by Seattle or Bust » Mon Nov 24, 2025 3:36 am

GL_Storm wrote:
Mon Nov 24, 2025 2:30 am
D-train wrote:
Mon Nov 24, 2025 1:57 am
GL_Storm wrote:
Mon Nov 24, 2025 12:09 am
I don't think the Mariners are seriously pursuing any of these players. Trading for Skubal just isn't their style and taking on the rest of Ketel Marte's contract doesn't fit any known pattern of behavior by this front office. Brendan Donovan does seem like a very Mariners-ish type of player but I think they're more inclined to stand pat with Cole Young and see what he can do in a full season, and I don't believe they would acquire Donovan to play third base. So most likely it's Young at 2B and Williamson at 3B. There's also an outside chance Suarez's market doesn't materialize and they sign him to a one-year deal to play 3B, in which case I like Williamson as a backup infielder/utility player. I like Rivas in that role as well. I think he's an underrated player.

I think they want to sign Polanco. If they don't sign Polanco, I wonder what the plan B there could be. Maybe a trade for Brandon Lowe or Yandy Diaz? In my mind, Lowe would make more sense as a potential backup for Cole Young at 2B.

I could see them trading prospects for relievers. Maybe Raley goes in one of those deals.
If they go with both Young AND BW in the OD lineup...2 600 OPS guys all that good will with the Naylor trade will be gone and they will rightfully Destroyed by the media and fanbase. Trade for Donovan is the minimum bar. Let Cole and Ben battle it out in ST and Donovan replaces the loser.
Nah. There's barely any sports media in Seattle and not that many fans that closely follow these things like we do here. People do care a lot about Seahawks and Huskies, but nobody gets all that worked up about the Mariners. A trade for Donovan could happen, but it's more something that we're dreaming up. And personally I don't really care. He seems like a very mid player to me.
I mean, he's a 3-4 win player when healthy.

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Re: A plan for the 3x trade favorites 3.0

Post by GL_Storm » Mon Nov 24, 2025 3:54 am

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Mon Nov 24, 2025 3:36 am
GL_Storm wrote:
Mon Nov 24, 2025 2:30 am
D-train wrote:
Mon Nov 24, 2025 1:57 am


If they go with both Young AND BW in the OD lineup...2 600 OPS guys all that good will with the Naylor trade will be gone and they will rightfully Destroyed by the media and fanbase. Trade for Donovan is the minimum bar. Let Cole and Ben battle it out in ST and Donovan replaces the loser.
Nah. There's barely any sports media in Seattle and not that many fans that closely follow these things like we do here. People do care a lot about Seahawks and Huskies, but nobody gets all that worked up about the Mariners. A trade for Donovan could happen, but it's more something that we're dreaming up. And personally I don't really care. He seems like a very mid player to me.
I mean, he's a 3-4 win player when healthy.

We are Mariner fans. We don't expect to be shopping in the jewelry section. Jerry buys us practical things.
Yeah, it's a reasonable idea. I just doubt it will happen. I think it's Cole Young at 2B and probably Williamson at 3B, or Suarez on a 1 year deal. If Suarez doesn't sign, maybe at that point they'll look at other options.

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Re: A plan for the 3x trade favorites 3.0

Post by DavidGee24 » Mon Nov 24, 2025 7:00 am

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 11:42 pm
You don't know way more about the game than me.

What you know is "ME SEE BASEBALL, ME HIT BASEBALL, WHY NOT BASEBALL GO OVER FENCE? ME ANGRY NOW. ME CLAIM OTHER TEAM CHEATING SO I HIT THEM WITH BASEBALL OR MY FIST."

You have never made a singular post that hints that you know more about baseball than me. Certainly not a post that indicates you know more about trade compensation. I literally predicted accurate trade comp for both Naylor and Geno at the deadline this year.

As I've said multiple times to you, these "plans" are not meant to be realistic. They're meant to spark conversation on a sports forum that allows multiple people to chime in about potential players available and the compensation it might take to acquire them. I don't know how to make that any more clear than I have to you.

You just don't know how to think like that... instead you make a moronic post replying to my thread like you just did. Be an adult, put some effort in, and you tell me what it would take to acquire Donovan in your opinion. That is how these places work unless you want to be the village neanderthal who sometimes chimes in with "MARINERS WIN!!! WE'RE HEROES!!!"
That's quite the word salad you tossed just to say you could survive a shootout with SWAT officers by taking cover behind your pillbox. I had to double check and make sure this wasn't the Politics Forum.

And yes, I do know way more about the game than you do, which is one of the reasons I have one of these:
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Re: A plan for the 3x trade favorites 3.0

Post by Bil522 » Mon Nov 24, 2025 7:17 am

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 7:29 pm
Trades:

Mariners trade SP Luis Castillo, 2B Cole Young, SP Ryan Sloan, OF Tai Peete to the Tigers for SP Tarik Skubal, RHP Ty Madden

Rationale: I think the Tigers line up well as a trade partner for Castillo, especially in a deal for Skubal. Why? Because they're a team that still figures on contending even if they trade Skubal and Castillo helps fill the void in moving him. Maybe the M's have to throw a little money in to get a deal done, but the point still stands. Detroit's middle infield is a mess with a SS who put up -0.8 WAR and Gleyber Torres as a F/A. Young can slot into either position right away for them. Sloan gives them their elite starting pitching prospect back in the deal. Peete is a wild card with potential in the OF. Skubal is self explanatory for the M's. Ty Madden is an intriguing arm... a former 1st round pick, he struggled in the minors and was out all year with an injury. I see a move to the bullpen for him because there's some untapped potential in maxing out his fastball.

Mariners trade SP Logan Evans, 2B Michael Arroyo, SP Michael Morales to the Cardinals for 2B/3B Brendan Donovan

Rationale: I feel like the Cardinals would be after players who are MLB ready or close to it because they never figure on wanting a full rebuild. They've got a lot of young talent in house and Evans/Morales give them a couple arms they can slot into a very thin rotation sooner rather than later. Arroyo should get the majors at some point this year. In '27, this would give STL an infield at 2B/SS/3B of top 50 prospects in baseball all at the same time. Donovan is a clear fit for the M's at 2B... giving them elite D and contact at the position.

Mariners trade SS Felnin Celesten, OF Dom Canzone, SP Jurrangelo Cijntje, SP Emerson Hancock to the Diamondbacks for 2B/3B Ketel Marte, RHP Juan Morillo

Rationale: I think the Dbacks could use a combination of MLB-ready players and prospects in a return for Marte. Arizona has 2x top MI prospects in Lawler and Troy so I don't think they really need to target a direct replacement for Marte in a trade. Instead, they're horribly thin in the OF and an old friend in Dom Canzone could help out here. Cijntje gives them a stud starting pitching prospect that could be ready as soon as next year. Celesten gives them a top prospect to develop at SS and Hancock gives them a stop gap in their current rotation that has nothing in the farm to replenish it. Marte could slot in at 3B for the M's right away. He's one of the best hitters in baseball having won a Silver Slugger the last 2 years and averaging 5.3 bWAR the last 3 seasons despite missing some time with injuries. Morillo is an interesting arm - he averaged 99 MPH on his fastball last year and throws a wipe out slider that he's still working on controlling.

Roster:

1. Brendan Donovan 2B
2. Ketel Marte 3B
3. Cal Raleigh C
4. Julio Rodriguez CF
5. Josh Naylor 1B
6. Randy Arozarena LF
7. Luke Raley DH
8. Victor Robles RF
9. JP Crawford SS

Bench: Harry Ford C, Leo Rivas IF, Samad Taylor OF

Rotation:

1. Tarik Skubal
2. Bryan Woo
3. Logan Gilbert
4. George Kirby
5. Bryce Miller

CL: Andres Munoz
HL: Matt Brash, Gabe Speier, Eduard Bazardo
ML/LL: Carlos Vargas, Ty Madden, Juan Morillo
Torres accepted QO and their top prospect, Kevin McGonicle is a SS , who is expected to get the job out of ST. So the Tigers middle infield is pretty well set. Remember, Detroit's farm system is in the top 10 so they have some prospects. Now they don't have the depth the M's have but they are good.

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Re: A plan for the 3x trade favorites 3.0

Post by Seattle or Bust » Mon Nov 24, 2025 8:34 am

DavidGee24 wrote:
Mon Nov 24, 2025 7:00 am
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Nov 23, 2025 11:42 pm
You don't know way more about the game than me.

What you know is "ME SEE BASEBALL, ME HIT BASEBALL, WHY NOT BASEBALL GO OVER FENCE? ME ANGRY NOW. ME CLAIM OTHER TEAM CHEATING SO I HIT THEM WITH BASEBALL OR MY FIST."

You have never made a singular post that hints that you know more about baseball than me. Certainly not a post that indicates you know more about trade compensation. I literally predicted accurate trade comp for both Naylor and Geno at the deadline this year.

As I've said multiple times to you, these "plans" are not meant to be realistic. They're meant to spark conversation on a sports forum that allows multiple people to chime in about potential players available and the compensation it might take to acquire them. I don't know how to make that any more clear than I have to you.

You just don't know how to think like that... instead you make a moronic post replying to my thread like you just did. Be an adult, put some effort in, and you tell me what it would take to acquire Donovan in your opinion. That is how these places work unless you want to be the village neanderthal who sometimes chimes in with "MARINERS WIN!!! WE'RE HEROES!!!"
That's quite the word salad you tossed just to say you could survive a shootout with SWAT officers by taking cover behind your pillbox. I had to double check and make sure this wasn't the Politics Forum.

And yes, I do know way more about the game than you do, which is one of the reasons I have one of these: 20251123_225621.jpg
I couldn't give 2 fucks about some stupid ring you have on meathead.

You're nothing but a bunch of hot air constantly parading around here like some macho weirdo.

The fact that you feel the need to post that picture says plenty about your insecurities. You're probably a nightmare to be around and my guess is you're regularly having to be told to tone it down on the softball field because you can't regulate your testosterone.

Like I said,

"ME SEE BASEBALL, ME HIT BASEBALL, WHY NOT BASEBALL GO OVER FENCE? ME ANGRY NOW. ME CLAIM OTHER TEAM CHEATING SO I HIT THEM WITH BASEBALL OR MY FIST."

"MARINERS WIN, WE'RE HEROES!!!"

Such magnificent contributions you make to this forum.

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Re: A plan for the 3x trade favorites 3.0

Post by D-train » Mon Nov 24, 2025 3:49 pm

GL_Storm wrote:
Mon Nov 24, 2025 2:30 am
D-train wrote:
Mon Nov 24, 2025 1:57 am
GL_Storm wrote:
Mon Nov 24, 2025 12:09 am
I don't think the Mariners are seriously pursuing any of these players. Trading for Skubal just isn't their style and taking on the rest of Ketel Marte's contract doesn't fit any known pattern of behavior by this front office. Brendan Donovan does seem like a very Mariners-ish type of player but I think they're more inclined to stand pat with Cole Young and see what he can do in a full season, and I don't believe they would acquire Donovan to play third base. So most likely it's Young at 2B and Williamson at 3B. There's also an outside chance Suarez's market doesn't materialize and they sign him to a one-year deal to play 3B, in which case I like Williamson as a backup infielder/utility player. I like Rivas in that role as well. I think he's an underrated player.

I think they want to sign Polanco. If they don't sign Polanco, I wonder what the plan B there could be. Maybe a trade for Brandon Lowe or Yandy Diaz? In my mind, Lowe would make more sense as a potential backup for Cole Young at 2B.

I could see them trading prospects for relievers. Maybe Raley goes in one of those deals.
If they go with both Young AND BW in the OD lineup...2 600 OPS guys all that good will with the Naylor trade will be gone and they will rightfully Destroyed by the media and fanbase. Trade for Donovan is the minimum bar. Let Cole and Ben battle it out in ST and Donovan replaces the loser.
Nah. There's barely any sports media in Seattle and not that many fans that closely follow these things like we do here. People do care a lot about Seahawks and Huskies, but nobody gets all that worked up about the Mariners. A trade for Donovan could happen, but it's more something that we're dreaming up. And personally I don't really care. He seems like a very mid player to me.
There is a reason that Jerry has changed his tune lately. Guessing he hasn't forgot having to apologize after the 54% Pressor. The back lash to that was MASSIVE. You must not be on X or listen to Sports radio. The Mariner fanbase is FAR larger and more passionate than the Husky fan base imo
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Re: A plan for the 3x trade favorites 3.0

Post by D-train » Mon Nov 24, 2025 3:54 pm

GL_Storm wrote:
Mon Nov 24, 2025 3:54 am
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Mon Nov 24, 2025 3:36 am
GL_Storm wrote:
Mon Nov 24, 2025 2:30 am


Nah. There's barely any sports media in Seattle and not that many fans that closely follow these things like we do here. People do care a lot about Seahawks and Huskies, but nobody gets all that worked up about the Mariners. A trade for Donovan could happen, but it's more something that we're dreaming up. And personally I don't really care. He seems like a very mid player to me.
I mean, he's a 3-4 win player when healthy.

We are Mariner fans. We don't expect to be shopping in the jewelry section. Jerry buys us practical things.
Yeah, it's a reasonable idea. I just doubt it will happen. I think it's Cole Young at 2B and probably Williamson at 3B, or Suarez on a 1 year deal. If Suarez doesn't sign, maybe at that point they'll look at other options.
Geno is predicted to get a 3 year $72M deal. He hit 49 HRs last season. Teams will discount his two months hitting primarily at T Mobile. Zero chance he takes a one year deal especially hitting at T Mobile again. This is his last chance to get a good contract.

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