Payroll situation

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Re: Payroll situation

Post by desbcoach » Tue Nov 25, 2025 10:47 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:11 pm
desbcoach wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:10 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 4:40 pm


No one is taking Castillo unless you pay most of his salary.
I disagree , look at pitching value and his durability. He is making 20 million and still has that value or close. They may not get much of a return but assume their goal would be to create salary space
He is going to be 33 and has an ERA+ of 104 over the last 2 years. Who is going to pay 20 Million for an old pitcher who is barely above league average. BTV has him valued at -7.4.
Red Sox just gave up 2 prospects for Sonny grey and paying him basically 41 million for 1 year and I believe Castillo is as good and younger.Cardinals payed 20 mil of it
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Re: Payroll situation

Post by Coeurd’Alene J » Tue Nov 25, 2025 11:00 pm

desbcoach wrote:
Tue Nov 25, 2025 10:47 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:11 pm
desbcoach wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:10 pm


I disagree , look at pitching value and his durability. He is making 20 million and still has that value or close. They may not get much of a return but assume their goal would be to create salary space
He is going to be 33 and has an ERA+ of 104 over the last 2 years. Who is going to pay 20 Million for an old pitcher who is barely above league average. BTV has him valued at -7.4.
Red Sox just gave up 2 prospects for Sonny grey and paying him basically 41 million for 1 year and I believe Castillo is as good and younger
Castillo has value. Pitching is always a need. He is as good as gone

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Re: Payroll situation

Post by HawkandMariner88 » Wed Nov 26, 2025 12:18 am

Coeurd’Alene J wrote:
Tue Nov 25, 2025 11:00 pm
desbcoach wrote:
Tue Nov 25, 2025 10:47 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:11 pm


He is going to be 33 and has an ERA+ of 104 over the last 2 years. Who is going to pay 20 Million for an old pitcher who is barely above league average. BTV has him valued at -7.4.
Red Sox just gave up 2 prospects for Sonny grey and paying him basically 41 million for 1 year and I believe Castillo is as good and younger
Castillo has value. Pitching is always a need. He is as good as gone
Then ship his but off to Boston for Duran or Milwaukee for some relief help.

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Re: Payroll situation

Post by D-train » Wed Nov 26, 2025 1:58 am

Coeurd’Alene J wrote:
Tue Nov 25, 2025 11:00 pm
desbcoach wrote:
Tue Nov 25, 2025 10:47 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:11 pm


He is going to be 33 and has an ERA+ of 104 over the last 2 years. Who is going to pay 20 Million for an old pitcher who is barely above league average. BTV has him valued at -7.4.
Red Sox just gave up 2 prospects for Sonny grey and paying him basically 41 million for 1 year and I believe Castillo is as good and younger
Castillo has value. Pitching is always a need. He is as good as gone
Care to wager my brother???? :) Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. Will be going over Stevens pass at Dawn. Wish us luck! ha
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Re: Payroll situation

Post by Seattle or Bust » Wed Nov 26, 2025 2:11 am

D-train wrote:
Wed Nov 26, 2025 1:58 am
Coeurd’Alene J wrote:
Tue Nov 25, 2025 11:00 pm
desbcoach wrote:
Tue Nov 25, 2025 10:47 pm


Red Sox just gave up 2 prospects for Sonny grey and paying him basically 41 million for 1 year and I believe Castillo is as good and younger
Castillo has value. Pitching is always a need. He is as good as gone
Care to wager my brother???? :) Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. Will be going over Stevens pass at Dawn. Wish us luck! ha
They got about a foot of snow.

Tons of 2-wheel morons try to make it through.

Good luck.

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Re: Payroll situation

Post by harmony » Wed Nov 26, 2025 2:40 am

D-train wrote:
Tue Nov 25, 2025 10:34 pm
mostonmike wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:39 pm
harmony wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 4:55 pm

This year J.P. Crawford posted 2.8 fWAR, valued at $22.4 million:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/jp-cr ... n=SS#value

Crawford benefited from great picks by his first basemen, but Crawford was charged with only five throwing errors:

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... &pagenum=1

Nine shortstops had more throwing errors than Crawford this season. Five more tied Crawford with five throwing errors.
There is room for humour in a forum y'know, harmony. :roll: When someone uses a simile that is often a solid sign of some light relief.

You didn't spend any time researching all that, did you?

Bloody hell. :o :shock:


Go on, I dare you to have a chuckle at this photo from a practice session earlier in the season.

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If I hadn't met in during Spring Training back in the teens I would think he is an Android. lol Seems human in person...
:D :D :D
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Re: Payroll situation

Post by D-train » Wed Nov 26, 2025 2:43 am

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Wed Nov 26, 2025 2:11 am
D-train wrote:
Wed Nov 26, 2025 1:58 am
Coeurd’Alene J wrote:
Tue Nov 25, 2025 11:00 pm


Castillo has value. Pitching is always a need. He is as good as gone
Care to wager my brother???? :) Happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. Will be going over Stevens pass at Dawn. Wish us luck! ha
They got about a foot of snow.

Tons of 2-wheel morons try to make it through.

Good luck.
Thanks. I bought chains a few hours ago for the low low price of almost $200. All to have Thanksgiving dinner with my 90 yo Mother in Law on Whidbey Island to keep the inheritance intact and to get our Rottweiler to her breeder to have $3000 a piece pups. lol I can't believe how my life turned out.
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Re: Payroll situation

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Nov 26, 2025 3:01 am

desbcoach wrote:
Tue Nov 25, 2025 10:47 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 11:11 pm
desbcoach wrote:
Mon Nov 03, 2025 10:10 pm


I disagree , look at pitching value and his durability. He is making 20 million and still has that value or close. They may not get much of a return but assume their goal would be to create salary space
He is going to be 33 and has an ERA+ of 104 over the last 2 years. Who is going to pay 20 Million for an old pitcher who is barely above league average. BTV has him valued at -7.4.
Red Sox just gave up 2 prospects for Sonny grey and paying him basically 41 million for 1 year and I believe Castillo is as good and younger.Cardinals payed 20 mil of it
Yeah, it's so subjective, a tiny market with a ton of variables. Dipoto has shown an ability to put together deals.

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