The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by Pharmabro » Thu Nov 27, 2025 12:59 am

D-train wrote:
Wed Nov 26, 2025 10:45 pm
HawkandMariner88 wrote:
Wed Nov 26, 2025 12:12 am
D-train wrote:
Tue Nov 25, 2025 4:46 pm
Hearing the Marlins are under pressure again to add salary. Even more so this off season than last. desbcoach believes Randy might be traded and Brady Vargas posted this:
Could we deal him to Milwaukee instead for either of Megill or Uribe instead please. Who does Miami have that we can take back. The only way I'd do a trade with Miami is if it's for someone like a Henriquez.
Nope, Milwaukee isn't taking on his salary.
Who do they have that we would want? We need to have as many + players as we can get. A salary dump for nothing back does not help us at all. It hurts us.

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by Pharmabro » Thu Nov 27, 2025 12:59 am

D-train wrote:
Wed Nov 26, 2025 10:45 pm
HawkandMariner88 wrote:
Wed Nov 26, 2025 12:12 am
D-train wrote:
Tue Nov 25, 2025 4:46 pm
Hearing the Marlins are under pressure again to add salary. Even more so this off season than last. desbcoach believes Randy might be traded and Brady Vargas posted this:
Could we deal him to Milwaukee instead for either of Megill or Uribe instead please. Who does Miami have that we can take back. The only way I'd do a trade with Miami is if it's for someone like a Henriquez.
Nope, Milwaukee isn't taking on his salary.
Who do they have that we would want? We need to have as many + players as we can get. A salary dump for nothing back does not help us at all. It hurts us.

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Thu Nov 27, 2025 1:08 am

Big_Maple wrote:
Wed Nov 26, 2025 11:33 pm
The Jays add Dylan Cease to a 7 year deal:

https://www.mlb.com/news/dylan-cease-blue-jays-deal
And fans on X think Gilbert and Kirby are going to resign before going to FA. lol


1.1 WAR and a 4.55 ERA this season. Imagine what those two will get in 2-3 years.
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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by Pharmabro » Thu Nov 27, 2025 1:42 am

D-train wrote:
Thu Nov 27, 2025 1:08 am
Big_Maple wrote:
Wed Nov 26, 2025 11:33 pm
The Jays add Dylan Cease to a 7 year deal:

https://www.mlb.com/news/dylan-cease-blue-jays-deal
And fans on X think Gilbert and Kirby are going to resign before going to FA. lol


1.1 WAR and a 4.55 ERA this season. Imagine what those two will get in 2-3 years.
Look at what Cal did the year after he signed an extension. What would he cost to extend today?

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Thu Nov 27, 2025 1:51 am

Captain 97 wrote:
Wed Nov 26, 2025 11:52 pm
30 million a year for a guy coming off a season with a 94 ERA+ That is the epitome of a stupid deal.
The dude had one elite year 4 years ago. Since then he has averaged 2.4 WAR per season with a 4.18 ERA and a 102 ERA+
Yeah that is beyond belief. Guessing Kirby and Logan will be bringing cases of $1000 bottles of wine and Champagne to TG dinner tomorrow.
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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Thu Nov 27, 2025 1:52 am

Pharmabro wrote:
Thu Nov 27, 2025 1:42 am
D-train wrote:
Thu Nov 27, 2025 1:08 am
Big_Maple wrote:
Wed Nov 26, 2025 11:33 pm
The Jays add Dylan Cease to a 7 year deal:

https://www.mlb.com/news/dylan-cease-blue-jays-deal
And fans on X think Gilbert and Kirby are going to resign before going to FA. lol


1.1 WAR and a 4.55 ERA this season. Imagine what those two will get in 2-3 years.
Look at what Cal did the year after he signed an extension. What would he cost to extend today?
So much more it wouldn't happen.
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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Thu Nov 27, 2025 1:53 am

Pharmabro wrote:
Thu Nov 27, 2025 12:59 am
D-train wrote:
Wed Nov 26, 2025 10:45 pm
HawkandMariner88 wrote:
Wed Nov 26, 2025 12:12 am


Could we deal him to Milwaukee instead for either of Megill or Uribe instead please. Who does Miami have that we can take back. The only way I'd do a trade with Miami is if it's for someone like a Henriquez.
Nope, Milwaukee isn't taking on his salary.
Who do they have that we would want? We need to have as many + players as we can get. A salary dump for nothing back does not help us at all. It hurts us.
He literally said who he wanted from them in his post.
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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by Pharmabro » Thu Nov 27, 2025 2:17 am

I thought I would at least think out loud about a possible Corey Seager trade.

He is coming off an age 31 season where he played to a 151 OPS+ in 102 games. 6.2BWAR.
6 years X 31.5M is what he is owed. I would thing a deal like Nolan Arenado would be the ticket. Nolan was owed 6 years and 199M at the time he was traded before his age 30 season The Rocks picked up 50M of that tab. What if the StRangers did the same?

Corey would become a guy with 6 years and an AAV of 23.16M. But he would add another star to the left side of the infield. I would think he would still be above average at defending from 3B. I could see Colt come up at some point for 2B or SS sooner or later.

1. Julio CF
2. Cal **C
3. Seager* 3B
4. Randy OF
5. Josh* 1B
6. Polo** 2B
7. Calzone*/Robles OF
8. Raley* DH
9. JP* SS

Bench Ford, +2 of (Rivas, Bliss, Colt, Ben, etc)


For the record: I know that Kyle has probably poisoned his brother about how shitty this team is. And the Rangers would probably not want to strengthen a division rival and all.


On one of the pods they went after a guy we. Talked about going after last time in FA Kyle Schwarber. I view him as a DH that could pretend to play OF. But we would not get this year’s 50+ bombs. But if we could count on 30+ HR and 90-100 RBI?

Just kind of fun to think about different guys we could add.

I am still disappointed we didn’t win on Duran if we did added to Nails, Geno I bet we are at least in the WS. And who knows what happens.

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by GL_Storm » Thu Nov 27, 2025 2:19 am

The Dylan Cease deal is stupid but he might be the best free agent starter in this year's class. Some would say Framber but I wouldn't. There's no Ace this year, no number 1's.

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by Pharmabro » Thu Nov 27, 2025 2:32 am

D-train wrote:
Tue Nov 25, 2025 4:46 pm
Hearing the Marlins are under pressure again to add salary. Even more so this off season than last. desbcoach believes Randy might be traded and Brady Vargas posted this:
I don’t see how this makes us better? Bender is an OK BP part. He is probably going to get around 3M+/- in Arby, and Randy gets ? 14-15M +/-. But now you have to go and replace a 4BWAR guy who has been a solid 120 OPS+ bat.

What is the solution to fill those shoes? We have been much better at grabbing guys and developing BP parts than corner outfielders.Right now I have:

Julio, Cal, Randy, Josh and who is batting #5???????? Right now I’d say Canzone, or Raley. Right now if you look at the depth chart you would have a
7,8,9 of Ben, Young, and JP
5-6 I guess is DH Raley and the platoon of ( Robles and Canzone)

And this trade proposes that we dump Randy?

We need more bats not less. Well, more good bats not less.

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