The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Fri Feb 06, 2026 3:31 pm

Gametime wrote:
Fri Feb 06, 2026 6:22 am
This is the roster. No money left.

Still wish we had Suarez for 15 mil. Crazy to too.

No real 3rd baseman or DH.

Don’t think we are better than we ended. At least they didn’t stand totally pat.
You really haven't been paying attention if you don't think we are set at DH. These are VERY conservative projections and still have us at 1.6 fWAR at DH. I think it will be about double that.
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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Fri Feb 06, 2026 3:33 pm

bpj wrote:
Fri Feb 06, 2026 9:23 am
Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Feb 06, 2026 3:45 am
D-train wrote:
Thu Feb 05, 2026 11:43 pm


Robles was after a mid season DFA and Rivas was a minor league FA. Even worse.
Ahhhhhh... Josh Naylor?
Good point. He was acquired in trade, then re-acquired as a free agent. Have to give Dipoto credit.

And we acquired "Louis Costello" as you probably call him, from the Reds, but he's still here via an extension.

I was just going off the fangraphs depth chart.
:lol: Wild that the first Mariner teams had Glenn ABBOTT and now we have a Luis COSTELLO. :)
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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Fri Feb 06, 2026 3:39 pm

Wow Glenn Abbott turns 75 yo in 10 days.

He had a career K/9 of 3.4

1979 it was 1.9 per 9 He struck out 25 guys in 19 STARTS!!! 116 innings.

So he had 5 more Ks in 19 starts than the record for ONE game. Holy Hell that is insane.

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by Gametime » Fri Feb 06, 2026 4:02 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Feb 06, 2026 3:31 pm
Gametime wrote:
Fri Feb 06, 2026 6:22 am
This is the roster. No money left.

Still wish we had Suarez for 15 mil. Crazy to too.

No real 3rd baseman or DH.

Don’t think we are better than we ended. At least they didn’t stand totally pat.
You really haven't been paying attention if you don't think we are set at DH. These are VERY conservative projections and still have us at 1.6 fWAR at DH. I think it will be about double that.

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Ref and Dom as a DH. Sorry. That is a drop off. So I still say no real hitter as DH. Rotational DH ? Sorry top 2 are a Aaaa player and a marginal player from Boston. K

So, young kids at 3rd. I’ll stand and say we recorded of today than the end of the season. DH and 3rd main reason why.


Dom as DH??? Holy hell

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by bpj » Fri Feb 06, 2026 6:07 pm

Gametime wrote:
Fri Feb 06, 2026 4:02 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Feb 06, 2026 3:31 pm
Gametime wrote:
Fri Feb 06, 2026 6:22 am
This is the roster. No money left.

Still wish we had Suarez for 15 mil. Crazy to too.

No real 3rd baseman or DH.

Don’t think we are better than we ended. At least they didn’t stand totally pat.
You really haven't been paying attention if you don't think we are set at DH. These are VERY conservative projections and still have us at 1.6 fWAR at DH. I think it will be about double that.

Screenshot 2026-02-06 072814.png
Ref and Dom as a DH. Sorry. That is a drop off. So I still say no real hitter as DH. Rotational DH ? Sorry top 2 are a Aaaa player and a marginal player from Boston. K

So, young kids at 3rd. I’ll stand and say we recorded of today than the end of the season. DH and 3rd main reason why.


Dom as DH??? Holy hell
What don't you like about Canzone?

Here's his numbers next to some other players that DH-
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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Fri Feb 06, 2026 6:23 pm

Gametime wrote:
Fri Feb 06, 2026 4:02 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Feb 06, 2026 3:31 pm
Gametime wrote:
Fri Feb 06, 2026 6:22 am
This is the roster. No money left.

Still wish we had Suarez for 15 mil. Crazy to too.

No real 3rd baseman or DH.

Don’t think we are better than we ended. At least they didn’t stand totally pat.
You really haven't been paying attention if you don't think we are set at DH. These are VERY conservative projections and still have us at 1.6 fWAR at DH. I think it will be about double that.

Screenshot 2026-02-06 072814.png
Ref and Dom as a DH. Sorry. That is a drop off. So I still say no real hitter as DH. Rotational DH ? Sorry top 2 are a Aaaa player and a marginal player from Boston. K

So, young kids at 3rd. I’ll stand and say we recorded of today than the end of the season. DH and 3rd main reason why.


Dom as DH??? Holy hell
Dude Dom hit .300 with a .840 OPS. .879 vs. RHPs. FAR better than the Gimp Polanco. And Cal will DH some as well. You know the guy that hit 60 bombs last season??? Not sure what you are expecting. Sorry both prime Edgar and Nelson Cruz have retired.
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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Fri Feb 06, 2026 6:35 pm

bpj wrote:
Fri Feb 06, 2026 6:07 pm
Gametime wrote:
Fri Feb 06, 2026 4:02 pm
D-train wrote:
Fri Feb 06, 2026 3:31 pm


You really haven't been paying attention if you don't think we are set at DH. These are VERY conservative projections and still have us at 1.6 fWAR at DH. I think it will be about double that.

Screenshot 2026-02-06 072814.png
Ref and Dom as a DH. Sorry. That is a drop off. So I still say no real hitter as DH. Rotational DH ? Sorry top 2 are a Aaaa player and a marginal player from Boston. K

So, young kids at 3rd. I’ll stand and say we recorded of today than the end of the season. DH and 3rd main reason why.


Dom as DH??? Holy hell
What don't you like about Canzone?

Here's his numbers next to some other players that DH-
And Ref is at .959 vs LHPs tied with Springer for the top spot. He will only start vs. LHPs. When they bring in a RH reliever then Dom or Raley can PH.
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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Feb 06, 2026 10:19 pm

The other thing to look at is DH production generally, 247./320/ .414 is the average. The mariners should have above average production. DH isn't their issue

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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by D-train » Fri Feb 06, 2026 10:39 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Fri Feb 06, 2026 10:19 pm
The other thing to look at is DH production generally, 247./320/ .414 is the average. The mariners should have above average production. DH isn't their issue
Exactly. Could have the second best DH production next to Ohtani.
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Re: The official Hot Stove League Thread 2025-26 Offseason

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Feb 07, 2026 2:16 am

Kinda of interesting about young, maybe not just write him off, analytics still like him

His 470 ft home run last season
Young hit the ball 114.1 mph, which places him in the top 10% by max velocity. That’s crucial. As Davy Andrews pointed out for Fangraphs (in a post about a young Victor Robles), rookie max exit velocity is one of the strongest predictors of future performance. Here’s how he summarized the results (in a separate post worth reading):

… for rookies with at least 200 balls in play, wRC+ was less predictive of their future performance than max exit velocity. That blew my mind. Knowing just one measurement, the velocity of a player’s hardest-hit ball, was more useful than knowing about their overall performance through their entire rookie season.
It’s not just the Mariners who like Young, either. One rival executive describes Young as “the league model darling right now,” pointing out that analytically based projection systems value him more highly than scouts do.
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