The most wonderful time of the year. MOCK DRAFT SIM THREAD.

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Re: The most wonderful time of the year. MOCK DRAFT SIM THREAD.

Post by Seattle or Bust » Sun Feb 15, 2026 10:49 pm

Michael K. wrote:
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All conjecture... I'd love some evidence of Shaheed's impact as a wideout leading to more success for JSN... b/c his numbers went down after the Shaheed trade. I won't put that on Shaheed... but saying Shaheed opened up more opportunities for JSN is not backed up statistically.
Fact #1. The team lost one game with Shaheed on the roster.
Fact #2. When the passing game needed to be explosive? It was.

So, let's focus on the stats. Here's a stat for you. The Seahawks acquired Shaheed on November 4th. After that? Thanks to a long FG miss that was mostly set up by the luckiest punt bounce I've ever seen? The Seahawks lost ONE FUCKING GAME. Oh, and everyone's favorite thin man never stepped on the field again, as far as I can recall. I'd trade Horton before I didn't resign Shaheed! :lol:

GREAT TRADE.
Their success wasn't largely impacted by this trade. It's a false correlation.

That's like saying the Mariners making the ALCS makes the Geno trade "A GREAT TRADE!" b/c they made the ALCS.

The trade and compensation made sense. The trade for a 3B made sense, especially given Geno's performance in AZ. Geno's performance with the Mariners wasn't all that impactful on the team making the ALCS. It wasn't a "great trade." Given how Geno performed, the trade was largely a failure despite what the team ended up doing.

It's actually a pretty direct 1:1 comparison... Shaheed came to Seattle... hit .189 with the Seahawks and struck out a lot, but hit some big home runs. It wasn't the production they had hoped for or expected.

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Re: The most wonderful time of the year. MOCK DRAFT SIM THREAD.

Post by Seattle or Bust » Sun Feb 15, 2026 10:56 pm

D-train wrote:
Sun Feb 15, 2026 12:13 am
Seattle or Bust wrote:
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Michael K. wrote:
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Who knows how much he is going to get paid, and frankly? Who cares. They just performed a master class in cap spending with Geno, DK and Lockett still on the books!

So, he made a huge impact as a Kick Returner, and once again, it's a bad move because he is behind the best WR in the league, Cooper Kupp, AJ Barner and even the backs in the pecking order at WR? I don't think they even brought him in for his offense as much as his special teams. Listen to Harbaugh talk about the opening kickoff return for a TD against the Niners.

Again, we lose to the Fucking Rams in the regular season without him. In that game he had one fucking target. But? A 31 yard run on the game tieing drive and scored the punt return TD to cut the lead to one score. Sorry. Good trade simply because of that.

Complaining about that move is like complaining because some prospect that is in the MLB Top 100 was included in a trade for an actual MLB ready player. I don't understand it. It didn't cripple the draft, not in any way shape or form. But? It got us HFA in the playoffs, and he set the ton in our first playoff game. Fucking good trade.
Bro, nobody is complaining about the move. Who is doing that?

I'm simply saying the move didn't work out given expectations I'm sure they had for him at wideout. Me saying it didn't work out is not "complaining." I understand the move, thought the draft capital was appropriate, but do not see the production to call it a success.

Great they won the SB, and glad he had some nice kick returns that helped... but a better wideout could have made some of those KR's not necessary. A better passing offense could have led to a more dominant team. Shaheed didn't help there and his primary responsibility is being a wideout.
Many fans fall in love with players personally despite performance. Fan consensus means nothing. Look at the stats. Shaheed is flashy, has a nice smile, became a popular player b/c he had some nice returns.

There's plenty of people here who thought Geno was some elite QB - he wasn't and I was the most vocal about letting him go b/c this team was going nowhere with him.

Shaheed didn't connect with Darnold for whatever reason. I don't see that changing next year. And I sure as hell do not want them paying a 3rd/4th wideout $14M a year where his primary role is to return punts and kicks.

That is a horrible waste of resources. Horrible. Especially when Horton exists.

Think about the $$... I'd much rather the ability to re-sign Drake Thomas, Ty Okada, and K9 then draft a wideout vs paying Shaheed the $$ that allows you to do all of that.

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Re: The most wonderful time of the year. MOCK DRAFT SIM THREAD.

Post by D-train » Sun Feb 15, 2026 11:04 pm

Have you ever fallen in Love?
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Re: The most wonderful time of the year. MOCK DRAFT SIM THREAD.

Post by Seattle or Bust » Sun Feb 15, 2026 11:08 pm

D-train wrote:
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Have you ever fallen in Love?
Yeah, with Ken Griffey Jr and Alex Rodriguez.

Not Austin Jackson.

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Re: The most wonderful time of the year. MOCK DRAFT SIM THREAD.

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Mon Feb 16, 2026 12:56 am

Nobody here thought Geno was an elite QB. :roll: Good grief...

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Post by Donn Beach » Mon Feb 16, 2026 2:31 am

Geno is a poor comp. They needed geno to hit the ball they didn't need rasheed to catch passes. If he was dropping passes it might be more accurate. But they weren't targeting shaheed often. They had pass catchers, what they needed was someone to stretch defenses and he did that. It opened things up for the rest of the offense. You break off a 95.yard opening kickoff return and defenses need to account for you when you're lined up as a WR. The offense and ST improved after the rasheed trade, they used him as they intended successfully. It was a very successful trade.

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Post by Michael K. » Mon Feb 16, 2026 4:25 pm

I'm sure I'll learn more the more of these I do, and maybe I'll find some hidden gems. But boy, doesn't this seem like a pretty good draft to not have many picks in? I didn't find a ton I loved. Traded back once and missed out on the Center I had my eye on, by two picks, but I actually like the back from Penn State that I got instead.

I'll take this draft, but certainly not what I'd deem ideal.
Lee Hunter
DT
Texas Tech
Height: 6 - 3 |
Weight: 320 lbs |
RAS: N/A
Lee Hunter will be a 24-year old rookie, so he may fall outside some teams' age thresholds, but he nonetheless profiles as arguably the most complete nose tackle prospect in the 2026 NFL Draft, and an instant impact interior defensive lineman. Hunter logged 4 sacks and 20.5 tackles for loss at UCF through 2023 and 2024, and upon transferring to Texas Tech, he maintained his high-end production, with 2.5 sacks, 8.5 TFLs, and a strong PFSN DT Impact grade of 81.9. At around 6'4", 325 pounds, Hunter has excellent natural leverage and mass to go along with good proportional length. He's an explosive, energized mover at his size who flashes devastating power output 1-on-1. He has the anchor and latch strength to absorb combo blocks and double teams, and his motor ensures that he's always around the ball.
Chase Bisontis
OG
Texas A&M
Height: 6 - 5 |
Weight: 320 lbs |
RAS: N/A
Chase Bisontis returned to Texas A&M in 2025 as a 6'6", 320-pound junior who started nearly every game since arriving in College Station, shifting from right tackle in 2023 to his more natural spot at left guard in 2024. In 2025, Bisontis put together his best season yet, earning third-team All-SEC honors while catapulting into the conversation to be the top guard in the class. At his size, Bisontis has extremely impressive knee bend, hip fluidity, and overarching flexibility on recovery, and he's a high-level athlete who can match rushers laterally, reach his run-game landmarks with ease, and climb to the second level. In the past, his run blocking has been his strength; he's explosive and tenacious at the point of attack. However, his pass protection reached new heights in 2025, and he now stands as one of the most balanced and well-leveraged pass-game operators in the class, with a sturdy center of gravity, active hands, and excellent upper-lower sync. He's not quite as strong or powerful as Ioane, but Bisontis still has the high-floor and high-ceiling combination that NFL teams gravitate to, and he has impact starter upside in both phases.
Kaytron Allen
RB
Penn State
Height: 5 - 11 |
Weight: 220 lbs |
RAS: N/A
Kaytron Allen was often viewed as the "Robin" to Nicholas Singleton's "Batman" in the Penn State backfield leading into 2025, but Allen emerged as the comfortably superior prospect in 2025, and excelled as the most stable presence in the Nittany Lions' entire offensive arsenal. Allen rushed for a career-high 1,303 yards and 15 touchdowns, at an extremely healthy 6.5 yards per carry in an extremely predictable Penn State offense, and he also logged the eighth-highest PFSN RB Impact score of the year at 89.8. Singleton has a much more compelling north-south athletic profile, but for teams in search of physical volume backs with ingrained running instincts, Allen is the favorable selection. The 5'10", 220-pound Allen is built with a thick midsection and thicker quads, and he possesses surprising cutting flexibility and angle freedom for his build. More than that, he's a swift processor who can work off angle fluctuations early in reps, navigate congestion, and finish downhill. He's delivers punishment at contact, but his 2.43 yards before contact per rush (TruMedia) corroborates his vision, efficient footwork, and cutting ease. Combine all this with Allen's willingness as a pass protector and lead blocker, and he's an ideal if non-explosive volume back who'll see the field early and often.
Tristan Leigh
OT
Clemson
Height: 6 - 6 |
Weight: 315 lbs |
RAS: N/A
Tristan Leigh isn't a finished product yet, but he boasts one of the highest ceilings in the 2026 NFL Draft, for a likely non-Round 1 price. A distinguished three-year starter for a competitive Clemson team, Leigh boasts superlative explosiveness, raw power output, and physicality at 6'6", 315 pounds, with domineering length and width. His energized motion and twitch sets him apart from most trench defenders, and he flashes jarring violence and stifling core strength as a pass protector. Even with his previous experience, Leigh still needs to improve his anchor footwork, hand precision and timing, and upper-lower synergy in pass protection, but he's a certified power generator and people-mover in the run game with astronomical two-phase upside. His development upside is extremely high at OT, but with an explosiven power element that translates in close quarters, a transition to guard is also on the table.
Sawyer Robertson
QB
Baylor
Height: 6 - 4 |
Weight: 221 lbs |
RAS: N/A
Sawyer Robertson was one of the more productive quarterbacks on the college football stage over the past two seasons. Starting four games in 2023, Robertson's game was much less consistent over that early-career stretch, but he returned as a passer reimagined in 2024, throwing for over 3,000 yards and almost 30 scores while leading his team to a 7-4 record. In 2025, Robertson achieved career-highs in yardage (3,681) and passing TDs (31), and earned a spot on the Panini Senior Bowl roster. As a likely Day 3 selection, Robertson has plenty of appealing qualities. Though his arm is above-average at best, he's a prototypical passer with very good creation capacity and underlying touchness, and with an extra year of starting experience, his pre-snap and post-snap vision, as well as his mechanical control, markedly improved in 2025. He can still experience shoulder misalignment and situational imprecision at times, and will attempt to force throws his arm doesn't quite have the juice for, but he has the baseline physical talent, mental acuity, and toughness of an ideal backup QB and safety blanket.
In a perfect world? Bisontis starts right away and is a big upgrade over Bradford, but I wish I'd have found a Center later. Leigh can maybe challenge for a Guard and Tackle backup. Hunter steps right in to the rotation, Allen becomes the next Robin to K9's Batman, and Robertson becomes a camp arm...probably at best. This pick is the least likely as I doubt they are even close to giving up on Milroe.
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Re: The most wonderful time of the year. MOCK DRAFT SIM THREAD.

Post by Michael K. » Mon Feb 16, 2026 4:39 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Feb 15, 2026 10:49 pm

Their success wasn't largely impacted by this trade. It's a false correlation.
Why? Because it fits your narrative? He made two plays that beat the Rams at home and turned the tide on the playoff seeding.
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Feb 15, 2026 10:49 pm
That's like saying the Mariners making the ALCS makes the Geno trade "A GREAT TRADE!" b/c they made the ALCS.

The trade and compensation made sense. The trade for a 3B made sense, especially given Geno's performance in AZ. Geno's performance with the Mariners wasn't all that impactful on the team making the ALCS. It wasn't a "great trade." Given how Geno performed, the trade was largely a failure despite what the team ended up doing.

It's actually a pretty direct 1:1 comparison... Shaheed came to Seattle... hit .189 with the Seahawks and struck out a lot, but hit some big home runs. It wasn't the production they had hoped for or expected.
I seem to recall Geno with some pretty big hits in the playoffs. I can find plenty of blame for why they didn't go to the WS before I get to Geno. That trade added length to the lineup, much like adding a field stretcher did for the Hawks Offense. That trade added confidence to the team, muck like adding Geno did. The guys loved Geno, they love Rasheed. If you think Pitching to the Mariners with Geno on the field is the same as Pitching to them with Ben Williamson on the team? Then I'm done with you on that topic.

Just flat out ignorance to look at moves that inspired a 10 and 1 finish and a Super Bowl win and call it a bad trade. He may not be resigned, but please stop with the horseshit about it being a bad move! They flat out DON'T beat the Rams without him. You think the outcome is the same if we are playing our third straight road game in LA in the NFCCG? Good Lord man. Stop it.

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Re: The most wonderful time of the year. MOCK DRAFT SIM THREAD.

Post by Seattle or Bust » Mon Feb 16, 2026 5:12 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Mon Feb 16, 2026 4:39 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Feb 15, 2026 10:49 pm

Their success wasn't largely impacted by this trade. It's a false correlation.
Why? Because it fits your narrative? He made two plays that beat the Rams at home and turned the tide on the playoff seeding.
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Feb 15, 2026 10:49 pm
That's like saying the Mariners making the ALCS makes the Geno trade "A GREAT TRADE!" b/c they made the ALCS.

The trade and compensation made sense. The trade for a 3B made sense, especially given Geno's performance in AZ. Geno's performance with the Mariners wasn't all that impactful on the team making the ALCS. It wasn't a "great trade." Given how Geno performed, the trade was largely a failure despite what the team ended up doing.

It's actually a pretty direct 1:1 comparison... Shaheed came to Seattle... hit .189 with the Seahawks and struck out a lot, but hit some big home runs. It wasn't the production they had hoped for or expected.
I seem to recall Geno with some pretty big hits in the playoffs. I can find plenty of blame for why they didn't go to the WS before I get to Geno. That trade added length to the lineup, much like adding a field stretcher did for the Hawks Offense. That trade added confidence to the team, muck like adding Geno did. The guys loved Geno, they love Rasheed. If you think Pitching to the Mariners with Geno on the field is the same as Pitching to them with Ben Williamson on the team? Then I'm done with you on that topic.

Just flat out ignorance to look at moves that inspired a 10 and 1 finish and a Super Bowl win and call it a bad trade. He may not be resigned, but please stop with the horseshit about it being a bad move! They flat out DON'T beat the Rams without him. You think the outcome is the same if we are playing our third straight road game in LA in the NFCCG? Good Lord man. Stop it.
Geno also struck out at like a 40% rate in the playoffs as a whole. Had he hit better, perhaps the Mariners score more runs and the bullpen is exhausted less? Perhaps if he hits better the team doesn't struggle vs the Tigers and wins a couple more games not making game 7 essential vs the Blue Jays with no bullpen?

You have no idea what the game vs the Rams looks like without him. You're assuming the team is still down 2 scores and a KR is necessary. Perhaps with a different wideout they've scored more points. Nobody knows.

But again, for the millionth time, his WR stats were not helpful to a team that could have used them. They were down 31-14 vs the Rams in a game where Shaheed had 0 catches, for 0 yards, on 1 target. Perhaps if he actually got open and made some plays as a wideout, the Hawks wouldn't have needed a massive comeback. The team overcame his lack of production at wideout.

And you can keep posting exhaustive bullshit at the end of your posts trying to insinuate that there's some emotional tie to this... cause it's really working.
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Re: The most wonderful time of the year. MOCK DRAFT SIM THREAD.

Post by Seattle or Bust » Mon Feb 16, 2026 5:14 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Mon Feb 16, 2026 2:31 am
Geno is a poor comp. They needed geno to hit the ball they didn't need rasheed to catch passes. If he was dropping passes it might be more accurate. But they weren't targeting shaheed often. They had pass catchers, what they needed was someone to stretch defenses and he did that. It opened things up for the rest of the offense. You break off a 95.yard opening kickoff return and defenses need to account for you when you're lined up as a WR. The offense and ST improved after the rasheed trade, they used him as they intended successfully. It was a very successful trade.
Just because the Seahawks won the SB does not mean that the Hawks didn't need Shaheed to catch more passes. That is a false correlation.

You acquire a wideout to catch the ball. That was certainly one of the Hawks goals in acquiring him and saying anything short of that is laughable.

"The Seahawks didn't need a wide receiver they acquired to play wide receiver well."

Like what?

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