QB Rankings

[Donn Beach]

I don't know, I'm happy with him. I think he's the right guy for the job, leading this team. But to answer your previous question, Darnold led the league in TOs, that's really the issue. That particular stat is what's impacting his not being higher. He had a defense that would bail his ass out on a regular basis. I think he'd be the first to admit to that. If he's playing with a mediocre defense maybe we are here complaining about needing another QB, who knows

[D-train]

How many TOs did he have in the playoffs when it really matters?

[Donn Beach]

How many TOs did he have in the playoffs when it really matters?

He was great in the playoffs but it all matters. I don't know if they make the playoffs with a mediocre defense. And if they don't make the playoffs are we still viewing Darnold in the same light?

[Michael K.]

In three games against the Rams he won two.
Was 76 of 114 67% for 895 with 5 TDs and 6 INTs. So so, right?
Lights were at their brightest in the NFCCG and he was 25 of 36 69% with 3 TDs and 0 INTs.

So, Donn is probably right....if they don't make the playoffs we aren't talking about him like this. BUT....they did make the playoffs, and he proceeded to help them win a ring.

He was a high draft pick for a reason, and had limited success because he wasn't surrounded by enough talent. Ask Viking fans if they think they are better off now? This team probably wins the Super Bowl with a lot of those QBs ranked in that list, but the thing is....they won it with Sam and that is all we know for certain.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Hugh Millen did an analysis of Darnold's decision-making with regard to pass attempts and determined that the risk of interception inherent in his throws was justified by the rewards from pushing the ball downfield aggressively, and i agree. It seemed to indicate also that he trusted his receivers, which was good thing because they generally proved themselves worthy of it.

[D-train]

Hugh Millen did an analysis of Darnold's decision-making with regard to pass attempts and determined that the risk of interception inherent in his throws was justified by the rewards from pushing the ball downfield aggressively, and i agree. It seemed to indicate also that he trusted his receivers, which was good thing because they generally proved themselves worthy of it.

Good stuff. Can't wait to see the results this season in year 2 with them...

[auroraave]

Hugh Millen did an analysis of Darnold's decision-making with regard to pass attempts and determined that the risk of interception inherent in his throws was justified by the rewards from pushing the ball downfield aggressively, and i agree. It seemed to indicate also that he trusted his receivers, which was good thing because they generally proved themselves worthy of it.

Good stuff. Can't wait to see the results this season in year 2 with them...

There is generally going to be to camps of thought on Darnold: "OMG he threw four picks vs the lambs" and "OMG he threw no picks in the playoffs and won a SB." That's a bored and listless media desperately trying to meet their deadlines with low-rent hot takes rather than actual analysis - which doesn't really draw clicks anymore - so they go with the rage bait.

The reality is Sam is probably a top 1/3 QB in the league. But what is far far far more important in this equation is that IF he WAS a top (fivish) QB - we could not afford him - we would be lesser in some other area(s) to pay for that and not as good in other areas. The balance is the key to it all. The truth is that Sam has found a perfect landing spot and Seattle has found a perfect fit at QB - a guy who can make all the throws, is genuinely beloved by the team, is affordable, and does not have to carry the team week in and week out. He has proven he CAN carry the load - if that Thursday classic vs the Lambs isn't front and center in that debate than your opinion is irrelevent. Cut to teh SB where he did NOT have to carry the load - still performed good enough - but let the defense lead the way - is not just great coaching and strategy, but solid execution by a QB who has spent way too much time under the spotlight - merely because our dog shit media needs to manufacture drama.

I;ve said it before - this team is greater than the sum of it's parts - and it's parts are pretty good. We don't need Brady/Montana to carry the team - it's deep and rich in talent already - a QB sucking up a disproportionate amount of cap space immediately throws that delicate balance out the window.

^^^^ that's more accurate analysis than you will ever find on ESPN or any of the "experts."

I'm also of the strong belief that Seattle needs to look for thier next QB in the next draft - get ahead of what is coming - if Darnold continues to elevate - so does his market value - which may make a next contract cost-prohibitive. Need to get ahead of that now.

[Donn Beach]

Yeah, the Rams game, Darnold has four picks and the football universe lights up pointing at that. Why, because they lost the game. The week previous he had three TOs and not a peep. Why, because they won the game. Win and nobody cares abour TOs, lose and its what everyone is going to point at.

Who was to blame for losing the Rams game? Ernest Jones took the blame. Everyone thought that was cute but silly. How could the defense be blamed when Darnold had four picks? Because I think Jones feels its the defenses job to neutralize the picks and they didnt do it. I dont think Jones was just trying to be noble, I think he really feels that way.

I do feel its a, sum of the parts thing, its also a synergy thing. I felt it with Pete. I began to focus more on the chess game aspect with Pete. This now feels like it in spades. Its like a whole other level. Its facinating to me. The relationship between system and talent. Darnold to me seems like the perfect qb for this system. I dont know enough about football to have an opinion about other systems. But with this one, MM calls it complimentary football. That sounds like coach speak but i have fully conmited to it.

And lets not neglect STs. That might be the best of the three squads lol. And what i believe MM has done is gotten the three of them all working together as a team

[D-train]

What is Sam's market value if he has a similar season this season. $50M a year I would imagine....

[Donn Beach]

What is Sam's market value if he has a similar season this season. $50M a year I would imagine....

Yeah, if not more by then. Is it a given that JS pays it? I think so but hes managed to avoid it their last two qbs lol.