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Re: This is wild

Post by D-train » Thu Jul 16, 2026 5:08 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2026 4:45 pm
ERA+ is a different story.
Garcia and Moyer really got their ERAs inflated by the steroid era. And Randy pitching in the Kingdome probably hurt him a ton.
Imagine if Randy pitched his entire career in T Mobile. Might have had a sub 2 ERA. I think he has the best case for a unanimous first ballot HOFer. Just an impeccable record. Clowns that didn't vote for him had to be just being petty because he was surly....
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Re: This is wild

Post by DavidGee24 » Thu Jul 16, 2026 5:44 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2026 5:08 pm
Imagine if Randy pitched his entire career in T Mobile. Might have had a sub 2 ERA. I think he has the best case for a unanimous first ballot HOFer. Just an impeccable record. Clowns that didn't vote for him had to be just being petty because he was surly....
In his first four seasons at Arizona after we stupidly traded him away he reached his peak and had an ERA of 2.48. Do the Arizona/Seattle conversion and I think he's definitely under 2.00.

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Re: This is wild

Post by D-train » Thu Jul 16, 2026 5:49 pm

Johnson was born on September 10, 1963, in the San Francisco Bay Area suburb of Walnut Creek, California, to Carol Hannah and Rollen Charles "Bud" Johnson.[2] At Livermore High School, he was a star in baseball and basketball, though he was cut from the school basketball team his junior year for failing to run a six-minute mile. As a senior in 1982, he struck out 121 batters in 66+2⁄3 innings and threw a perfect game in his last high school start. He threw approximately 90 mph (140 km/h) and was imposingly tall, though he felt he was not the best pitcher in his league.[3][4][5] After high school, the Atlanta Braves selected Johnson in the fourth round of the 1982 MLB draft, but he did not sign, choosing instead to attend college.
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Re: This is wild

Post by Michael K. » Thu Jul 16, 2026 10:21 pm

DavidGee24 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2026 5:44 pm
D-train wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2026 5:08 pm
Imagine if Randy pitched his entire career in T Mobile. Might have had a sub 2 ERA. I think he has the best case for a unanimous first ballot HOFer. Just an impeccable record. Clowns that didn't vote for him had to be just being petty because he was surly....
In his first four seasons at Arizona after we stupidly traded him away he reached his peak and had an ERA of 2.48. Do the Arizona/Seattle conversion and I think he's definitely under 2.00.
Trading him wasn't the stupid part....pissing him off was.

He wanted to be gone. Look at his numbers the year we traded him. It was like he was a new man as soon as he left.

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Re: This is wild

Post by DavidGee24 » Fri Jul 17, 2026 7:22 am

Michael K. wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2026 10:21 pm
DavidGee24 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2026 5:44 pm
D-train wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2026 5:08 pm
Imagine if Randy pitched his entire career in T Mobile. Might have had a sub 2 ERA. I think he has the best case for a unanimous first ballot HOFer. Just an impeccable record. Clowns that didn't vote for him had to be just being petty because he was surly....
In his first four seasons at Arizona after we stupidly traded him away he reached his peak and had an ERA of 2.48. Do the Arizona/Seattle conversion and I think he's definitely under 2.00.
Trading him wasn't the stupid part....pissing him off was.

He wanted to be gone. Look at his numbers the year we traded him. It was like he was a new man as soon as he left.
That too, they were worried about his back issues and wouldn't extend him. Biggest mistake the franchise ever made and probably cost us at least one pennant. And that 1998, he had several games with us where he gave up a lot of runs and then he went to Houston and threw four shutouts in eleven starts.

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Re: This is wild

Post by Captain 97 » Mon Jul 20, 2026 4:06 pm

DavidGee24 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2026 7:22 am
Michael K. wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2026 10:21 pm
DavidGee24 wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2026 5:44 pm


In his first four seasons at Arizona after we stupidly traded him away he reached his peak and had an ERA of 2.48. Do the Arizona/Seattle conversion and I think he's definitely under 2.00.
Trading him wasn't the stupid part....pissing him off was.

He wanted to be gone. Look at his numbers the year we traded him. It was like he was a new man as soon as he left.
That too, they were worried about his back issues and wouldn't extend him. Biggest mistake the franchise ever made and probably cost us at least one pennant. And that 1998, he had several games with us where he gave up a lot of runs and then he went to Houston and threw four shutouts in eleven starts.
It was a mistake no doubt but at least they didn't get totally fleeced in the deal. Garcia, Guillen and Halama was a pretty good haul. Not as bad as the Varitek and Lowe for Slocumb deal where they traded away two guys who ended up with a combined 58 WAR for reliever who was sporting a 5.79 ERA at the time of the trade and gave them 0.4 WAR in a year and a half.

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Re: This is wild

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Jul 20, 2026 4:09 pm

And considering it was a two month rental

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Re: This is wild

Post by GL_Storm » Mon Jul 20, 2026 4:40 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2026 4:06 pm
DavidGee24 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2026 7:22 am
Michael K. wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2026 10:21 pm


Trading him wasn't the stupid part....pissing him off was.

He wanted to be gone. Look at his numbers the year we traded him. It was like he was a new man as soon as he left.
That too, they were worried about his back issues and wouldn't extend him. Biggest mistake the franchise ever made and probably cost us at least one pennant. And that 1998, he had several games with us where he gave up a lot of runs and then he went to Houston and threw four shutouts in eleven starts.
It was a mistake no doubt but at least they didn't get totally fleeced in the deal. Garcia, Guillen and Halama was a pretty good haul. Not as bad as the Varitek and Lowe for Slocumb deal where they traded away two guys who ended up with a combined 58 WAR for reliever who was sporting a 5.79 ERA at the time of the trade and gave them 0.4 WAR in a year and a half.
Why would you even compare these two trades? The Randy Johnson trade turned out about as well as one could possibly hope vs. the Slocumb trade, which at the time was so bad that it didn't make sense, and turned out just as many predicted.

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Re: This is wild

Post by Hy Feiber » Mon Jul 20, 2026 7:17 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu Jul 16, 2026 5:49 pm
Johnson was born on September 10, 1963, in the San Francisco Bay Area suburb of Walnut Creek, California, to Carol Hannah and Rollen Charles "Bud" Johnson.[2] At Livermore High School, he was a star in baseball and basketball, though he was cut from the school basketball team his junior year for failing to run a six-minute mile. As a senior in 1982, he struck out 121 batters in 66+2⁄3 innings and threw a perfect game in his last high school start. He threw approximately 90 mph (140 km/h) and was imposingly tall, though he felt he was not the best pitcher in his league.[3][4][5] After high school, the Atlanta Braves selected Johnson in the fourth round of the 1982 MLB draft, but he did not sign, choosing instead to attend college.
How the hell did wild Randy pitch a perfect game?

By the way, did anyone else watch Randy take a no-hitter into the top of the ninth inning against the Oakland A’s?

He was the one guy I would pay to see.

I had tickets in box seats in between first and shallow right field.

Who broke up the no-hitter?

You can’t cheat.

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Re: This is wild

Post by Captain 97 » Mon Jul 20, 2026 8:20 pm

GL_Storm wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2026 4:40 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Mon Jul 20, 2026 4:06 pm
DavidGee24 wrote:
Fri Jul 17, 2026 7:22 am


That too, they were worried about his back issues and wouldn't extend him. Biggest mistake the franchise ever made and probably cost us at least one pennant. And that 1998, he had several games with us where he gave up a lot of runs and then he went to Houston and threw four shutouts in eleven starts.
It was a mistake no doubt but at least they didn't get totally fleeced in the deal. Garcia, Guillen and Halama was a pretty good haul. Not as bad as the Varitek and Lowe for Slocumb deal where they traded away two guys who ended up with a combined 58 WAR for reliever who was sporting a 5.79 ERA at the time of the trade and gave them 0.4 WAR in a year and a half.
Why would you even compare these two trades? The Randy Johnson trade turned out about as well as one could possibly hope vs. the Slocumb trade, which at the time was so bad that it didn't make sense, and turned out just as many predicted.
I was replying to the guy who said Trading Randy was the biggest mistake the franchise ever made.

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