2026-27 Hot Stove Thread

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Re: 2026-27 Hot Stove Thread

Post by harmony » Fri Nov 13, 2026 10:47 pm

A stab at an offseason plan to fix a dismal defense that sabotaged the Mariners' otherwise talented pitching staff.

Sign Logan Gilbert to five-year, $130 million extension

Sign Seiya Suzuki to four-year, $110 million contract

Trade George Kirby and Eduard Bazardo to the Yankees for four years of starter Will Warren and five years of lefty reliever Brent Headrick

Trade Jonny Farmelo, Luke Raley and Mason Peters to the Guardians for one year of outfielder Steven Kwan

Trade Emerson Hancock to the Brewers for three years of third baseman Joey Ortiz

Trade Charlie Beilenson and Aiden Taurek to the Rays for one year of shortstop Taylor Walls and one year of reliever Tyler Wells

The lineup:

LF Steven Kwan L
RF Seiya Suzuki R
DH Dominic Canzone L
C Cal Raleigh S
CF Julio Rodriguez R
1B Josh Naylor L
3B Joey Ortiz R
2B Cole Young L
SS Taylor Walls S

C Jhonny Pereda R
IF/OF Brendan Donovan L
OF/IF Michael Arroyo R
OF/DH Lazaro Montes L

SP Logan Gilbert R
SP Bryan Woo R
SP Bryce Miller R
SP Kade Anderson L
SP Will Warren R

CL Andres Munoz R
HL Matt Brash R
HL Gabe Speier L
HL Tyler Wells R
RP Jose A. Ferrer L
HL Seranthony Dominguez R
RP Brent Headrick L
RP Carlos Vargas R

The Seattle defense would feature the reigning AL Gold Glove middle infielders, a four-time Gold Glove winner in left field and solid defenders in right field and at third base. Raleigh would need to rebound to his 2024 Platinum Glove form and Rodriguez would need to return to the play that earned him a Gold Glove nomination in 2023.

The Fielding Bible is high on many of those defenders:

https://www.fieldingbible.com/drs-leaderboard/players?

Walls goes to the bench when Colt Emerson returns.

Will Warren, who made 62 starts for the Yankees over the past two seasons, can hold down a rotation slot until Ryan Sloan is ready.

One could argue that Arroyo and Montes should play every day in the minors but the pair could provide at-bats off the bench. Instead of a late-inning defensive replacement, the Mariners would have late-inning replacement bats in Arroyo, Montes and Donovan.

FWIW Baseball Trade Values accepts as fair the trade of Kirby and Bazardo to the Yankees. BTV rejects the Kwan trade, maintaining that the Mariners are giving up too much. A trade of Farmelo for Kwan straight up would be a major overpay by the M's, according to BTV. BTV deemed the Hancock-for-Ortiz trade a minor overpay by the Brewers. BTV approves the trade with the Rays for Walls and Wells even without the inclusion of Taurek, who apparently is not in the BTV system.

This plan comes in just under the $170 million payroll projected in Ahoy Baseball's 2027 Offseason Simulator:

https://ahoybaseball.com/offseasonsimulator/

Let me take cover before you fire off your responses. ;)
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Re: 2026-27 Hot Stove Thread

Post by Captain 97 » Sat Nov 14, 2026 12:05 am

Hearing Chatter about Ian Happ. Seems like a Dipoto type move.

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Re: 2026-27 Hot Stove Thread

Post by Optimistic M's Fan » Sat Nov 14, 2026 5:49 pm

Wouldn't that be a fairly substantial overpay for 1 year of Kwan?? I would love to have him, but a top 70 prospect for 1 year of a slap hitter seems a bit extreme. If we are trading Farmelo, I'd try packaging him with Hancock and another 11-15 range prospect and see if we can get Lopez. I know they say they dont want to trade him but thats a solid package for him.
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Re: 2026-27 Hot Stove Thread

Post by GL_Storm » Sat Nov 14, 2026 7:13 pm

Optimistic M's Fan wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 14, 2026 5:49 pm
Wouldn't that be a fairly substantial overpay for 1 year of Kwan?? I would love to have him, but a top 70 prospect for 1 year of a slap hitter seems a bit extreme. If we are trading Farmelo, I'd try packaging him with Hancock and another 11-15 range prospect and see if we can get Lopez. I know they say they dont want to trade him but thats a solid package for him.
It looks a bit heavy to me as well though that could just be my skewed perception as a Mariners fan of the value of those prospects.

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Re: 2026-27 Hot Stove Thread

Post by Seattle or Bust » Sat Nov 14, 2026 7:32 pm

I'm really not all that excited over Suzuki... when he was coming from Japan in his 20's and signed a cheaper contract? Sure. I proposed the M's trade for him multiple times over to catch his cheaper production from '24-'26. But now?

He put up monster home vs road splits last year... .921/.763. He's never lived up to being the "power" bat he was in Japan... he was supposed to be a guy who flirted with 40 homers and he's only eclipsed 30 once.

I'd rather trade for younger players who could boom. Gunner Henderson... Jordan Walker...

To me Suzuki is a prime candidate to pay $25M a year and before you know it he's putting up low 2 WAR seasons and regressing as he ages.

I dono... I don't want it.

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Re: 2026-27 Hot Stove Thread

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 14, 2026 7:34 pm

Captain 97 wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 14, 2026 12:05 am
Hearing Chatter about Ian Happ. Seems like a Dipoto type move.
I predict he will be known as Iam Happless by Cinco de Mayo
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Re: 2026-27 Hot Stove Thread

Post by D-train » Sat Nov 14, 2026 7:45 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑
Sat Nov 14, 2026 7:32 pm
I'm really not all that excited over Suzuki... when he was coming from Japan in his 20's and signed a cheaper contract? Sure. I proposed the M's trade for him multiple times over to catch his cheaper production from '24-'26. But now?

He put up monster home vs road splits last year... .921/.763. He's never lived up to being the "power" bat he was in Japan... he was supposed to be a guy who flirted with 40 homers and he's only eclipsed 30 once.

I'd rather trade for younger players who could boom. Gunner Henderson... Jordan Walker...

To me Suzuki is a prime candidate to pay $25M a year and before you know it he's putting up low 2 WAR seasons and regressing as he ages.

I dono... I don't want it.
I agree and the Logan extension is laughable. Take a peak at Dylan Cease's contract and Logan is going to settle for $100M less??? Come on.
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