Redskins are changing their name

[ThePro]

Bottom line is this is the 21st century. "Redskins" now today is a racial slur. End of story . There should not be a team named after a racial slur. A team should not be called "Indians" . No one refers to Native Americans as Indians anymore. Or at least you shouldn't be. Redskin isn't on a job application or a census question. No one is identifying as Redskin.

As far as not being offended by a team being named Hillbillies, Honkeys etc.. perhaps you would if those names were associated with the same violent history that is associated with names that were given Native Americans and Blacks in this country

Redskins is not a racial slur today and there is scant evidence that it ever was. Nobody uses the word anymore for any reason other than to talk about a football team, and it was a name originally used by Native Americans of certain tribes to describe themselves. Read the articles I linked if you are interested in the history rather than some leftist bs.

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/wa ... 58881.html

My tribe doesn’t identify as “redskins”. This is a derogatory term coined by colonialists often historically used interchangeably with “savages”

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/22/spor ... ebate.html

Growing up as a member of the Gila River Indian Community in Arizona, Brian Howard attended an elementary school that was within the boundaries of Phoenix and beyond those of his reservation. There, in the third grade, he was first called “redskin.”

Did the white classmate intend it as a term of endearment, akin to buddy? Or was it used as a verbal fist, intended to hurt and to sting?

“A slur,” said Mr. Howard, 28, a legislative associate for the National Congress of American Indians. “Oh, yeah. Yes.”

https://time.com/4859656/washington-red ... eme-court/

Every major English dictionary describes the R-word as a derogatory way to speak about indigenous peoples. The term was used to describe the bloody scalps of Native Americans to be exchanged for a bounty. It is a term screamed at Native Americans as they were dragged at gunpoint off their lands, and it was chosen as the team’s name by one of America’s most renowned segregationists, George Preston Marshall, who was the last by a decade to integrate his team and only did so under threat of action against the organization by the federal government.

If you're interested please read the article I posted instead of some rightist BS

[DavidGee24]

I wonder if the Indians from India are offended.

They would be if they had a caricature of a brown skinned person with a Turban grinning on a uniform.

Behind a counter next to a cash register. Go the whole nine yards as they say.

[DavidGee24]

As far as not being offended by a team being named Hillbillies, Honkeys etc.. perhaps you would if those names were associated with the same violent history that is associated with names that were given Native Americans and Blacks in this country

I don't know when someone came up with Honkeys, but a lot of Hillbillies met a violent end in the Civil War at the hands of the United States Armed Forces.

[ThePro]

As far as not being offended by a team being named Hillbillies, Honkeys etc.. perhaps you would if those names were associated with the same violent history that is associated with names that were given Native Americans and Blacks in this country

I don't know when someone came up with Honkeys, but a lot of Hillbillies met a violent end in the Civil War at the hands of the United States Armed Forces.

Not even close to being the same thing.

[DavidGee24]

You first misconception is that you think people are "offended" . People are motivated not offended.

I think more than anything people are just stupid and addicted to outrage. Let me give you a great example: I was reading an article today posted on Yahoo from a military history site about how American subs sunk Japanese boats and kept over 80,000 Japanese soldiers from ever even seeing combat. The article outlined how it was done and there was zero social commentary. The website the article came from has lots of other neat military articles.

Yet SOMEHOW over 75 percent of the comments expressed outrage thinking the article implied an atrocity was committed and it was just one "Whudabbut Pearl Harbor" after another. It's 2020 and people have it so good (except the really, really poor) that they need to be outraged to be motivated. It's almost like a drug with so many.

[DavidGee24]

I don't know when someone came up with Honkeys, but a lot of Hillbillies met a violent end in the Civil War at the hands of the United States Armed Forces.

Not even close to being the same thing.
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In their point of view it is. They were trying to form their own nation and the United States littered their land with their dead.

[ThePro]

You first misconception is that you think people are "offended" . People are motivated not offended.

I think more than anything people are just stupid and addicted to outrage. Let me give you a great example: I was reading an article today posted on Yahoo from a military history site about how American subs sunk Japanese boats and kept over 80,000 Japanese soldiers from ever even seeing combat. The article outlined how it was done and there was zero social commentary. The website the article came from has lots of other neat military articles.

Yet SOMEHOW over 75 percent of the comments expressed outrage thinking the article implied an atrocity was committed and it was just one "Whudabbut Pearl Harbor" after another. It's 2020 and people have it so good (except the really, really poor) that they need to be outraged to be motivated. It's almost like a drug with so many.

People aren't stupid and addicted to outrage. This isn't a fad. Its 2020 and very few people have it so good. I can't take you seriously after making a comment like that.

[ThePro]

In their point of view it is. They were trying to form their own nation and the United States littered their land with their dead.

That's quite the watered down version of the Civil War.. And fighting in a war to try to secede from the Union (So they could keep slaves) is not the same as the atrocities inflicted upon Native Americans or Blacks.

[D-train]

Spiders gaining traction.

https://medium.com/@castrovince/the-cle ... f4aa576eb3

[Donn Beach]

"They were trying to form their own nation"...and they went about it by attacking fort Sumter and beginning the Civil War. Usually when the USA is attacked folks get upset about it. These days someone can blow up a Federal building or something and be viewed a hero, all they are trying to do is form their own nation i guess