Gamethread... M's v Padres.... Dipoto showcases trade chip

[D-train]

Hey, nice game thread

Well, we didn't lose.

But we are far from Heroes..........

[BaseHitDerby]

Three questions. If he was only shot once or twice, would this happen anyway? If he wasn't shot and grabbed the knife or the gun he was possibly be going for and killed the cops or the kids, would this happen? If he was white, would this happen?

I wonder how long without sports before even people like us realize we don't need it?

This was like an execution. Too bad this stupid cop had to ruin it for people in this country.

What was ruined for people in this country.......???
You misspoke...stupid kid didn’t do what he was clearly supposed to.

Now, the media will cover this nonstop until the election. There will also be even more protests/riots across the country. Blake did the wrong thing by resisting arrest. At the same time, the cop could've just shot him a few times. Then, subdue and handcuff him with two other officers by his side. This is not North Korea where cops get to execute people on the spot.

[D-train]

What is the solution. Tell cops not to shoot people 7 times. Ask them in interviews would the consider shooting people 7 times? If they say yes don't hire them?

[Coeurd’Alene J]

What is the solution. Tell cops not to shoot people 7 times. Ask them in interviews would the consider shooting people 7 times? If they say yes don't hire them?

Why the famous among us, don’t lower the rhetoric and promote a peaceful interaction with the police is really telling about where we are right now. Did you see that the George Floyd Fiasco that started this whole fucking self destruction of our cities......George self administered a completely lethal dose of fentanyl and drowned in his body fluids...not choked out. How many billions in damages has this country endured ? How many innocent people have died as a result of the Floyd bs The fucking Chinese must be celebrating that the drug they -manufacture and import has been the nucleus of our current violence

Minnesota v. Derek Chauvin et al: The Prosecution’s Dirty Little Secret
Medical examiner’s memorandum on Floyd’s toxicology report proves cause of death to be drug overdose, not murder.

Many of you may be familiar with Parry, but it bears repeating:

George Parry is a former federal and state prosecutor. From 1978 to 1983 he was Chief of the Police Brutality/Misconduct Unit of the Philadelphia District Attorney’s Office, which investigated and prosecuted use of deadly force by police. He blogs at knowledgeisgood.net and may be reached by email at kignet1@gmail.com.

He actually knows what he's talking about and has a lot of experience in the specific area of police use of force.

In the first part of the article Parry cuts through the chaff and comes to the obvious conclusion. It's worth reading through, once again. Then he concludes by listing the legal issues that arise from the unpardonable hiding of the documents in this case from the public:

It is quite telling that this explosively exculpatory June 1 memorandum was not released by the prosecution until August 25, 2020. All of which prompts these questions:
First, why did the prosecution wait three months to release this memorandum?
Second, if the prosecution had released this information in a timely fashion, would that have helped to quell the anti-police outrage that has fueled the nationwide orgy of rioting and looting?
Third, in light of Floyd’s toxicology results and the medical examiner’s assessment that Floyd’s fentanyl overdose caused him to essentially drown in his own bodily fluid, why haven’t the charges against all of the police defendants been dropped?
The handwriting is on the wall. Through all of the rioting, looting, and burning, the prosecution has kept secret its knowledge that George Floyd died as the result of a self-administered overdose of fentanyl. The Chief Medical Examiner of Hennepin County said as much way back on May 31, 2020.
But, now that the truth has finally emerged, it’s well past time to call a halt to this illegal and unfounded “murder” case and to let these wrongfully accused men go free.

This has always been nothing other than a politically motivated frame up of innocent police officers who were doing their jobs to the best of their ability. What it all says about America--about the Left and their complicit media enablers--at this juncture is deeply troubling.

[D-train]

Colby Covington
@ColbyCovMMA
Oh wow, you postponed your games?! Wanna prove you’re really about change? Quit your multi million dollar jobs and soft privileged lives playing a kids game, take a massive pay cut and perform the toughest job in America. Become cops!!!!
@NBA

@MLB

@KingJames
9:56 PM · Aug 26, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

[Coeurd’Alene J]

More from Perry

First, as you will see, when approached by the police, Floyd was foaming at the mouth. When the police asked about that, Floyd replied that he had been “hooping earlier.” “Hooping” is a street term that, in some locales, means placing drugs in one’s anus. Some junkies believe that absorbing drugs in that manner will produce a more intense and pleasurable sensation than that resulting from ingesting the drugs orally.

Since I am not familiar with Minneapolis street vernacular, I decided not to attempt to define “hooping” for the AmSpec readers. It could be a reference to playing basketball or some other innocent past time. But given the context, I doubt it.

Second, in addition to a drug overdose, there is an equally persuasive cause of death related to the autopsy findings that Floyd had severe coronary artery disease and had in his blood stream fentanyl and methamphetamine. Combine those findings with his agitated, incoherent and out of control behavior throughout his interaction with police, and it is entirely possible that he died of “excited delirium” which caused cardiac arrhythmia. In fact, a civilian recorded on the police body cam exclaimed that Floyd looked like he was about to have “a heart attack”, and one of the police officers expressed concern that Floyd’s deteriorating condition could be due to “excited delirium”.

Instead, the evidence proves that, when he first encountered the police, George Floyd was well on his way to dying from a self-administered drug overdose. Moreover, far from publicly, brazenly, and against their own self-interest slowly and sadistically killing Floyd in broad daylight before civilian witnesses with video cameras, the evidence proves that the defendants exhibited concern for Floyd’s condition and twice called for emergency medical services to render aid to him. Strange behavior, indeed, for supposedly brutal law officers allegedly intent on causing him harm.

Similarly, the evidence recorded by the body cameras worn by the police conclusively establishes that Floyd repeatedly complained that he couldn’t breathe before the police restrained him on the ground. As documented by Floyd’s autopsy and toxicology reports, his breathing difficulty was caused not by a knee on his neck or pressure on his back, but by the fact that he had in his bloodstream over three times the potentially lethal limit of fentanyl, a powerful and dangerous pain medication known to shut down the respiratory system and cause coma and death. He also had in his system a lesser dose of methamphetamine, which can cause paranoia, respiratory distress, coma, and death.

https://knowledgeisgood.net/2020/08/07/ ... rge-floyd/

[gil]

White officers shouldn't shoot a black man in the back. Or anyone in the back. I saw the video... and I saw Jacob Blake just walk away and get into his SUV. I realize the bells & whistles that must have set off. But c'mon, tackle and taze the guy. Where's your training??? Or follow the guy and arrest him later. Any sane person could have seen that something was seriously wrong there. I will miss tonight's game. Dammit, I wanted to see how our young guys could hold up against this ace.

He could have got a gun and then turned and popped the cops. He had just fought them and then he was going into the car. I don't see how anyone is questioning that Mr. Blake was in the wrong. The cops were called on him for a reason. I can't stand the MOnday morning quarter backing. I have played shoot- don't shoot games as part of my military training. Have you? I would guess not because if you had, you would have had the experience of being humbled over and over again. Why, because you had waited too long to respond. The next time you get popped for over correcting.

Note: I don't hate you I can appreciate a lamen's perspective but in this case, NO! You are NOT a subject matter expert. You do not have a better strategy than the people that are paid to do it. I admit they need more funding for high-stress shoot-no shoot realistic scenarios like what I did but defund = less well trained police.

It's good to see these thoughtful posts. Thanks guys. My grandfather was a cop in New York City and I wish I had known him better. I do know that it's an incredibly difficult and stressful job. I share DMM's frustration that a confrontation like this couldn't have been stopped with less force. And I agree with Hanjag about the potentially fatal consequences of waiting too long (or not responding enough). I believe that standard police training is that when you decide someone is a threat who needs to be subdued, you take the appropriate action and don't stop until the person no longer is a threat. That's the reason for multiple shots in many situations. But it's going to be an adrenaline-filled situation, not one in which a cop decides logically. Training matters.

I certainly support better trained, better paid, and better supported police. And I don't feel that is at odds with the *goals* of the Black Lives Matter movement.

Go Ms!

[Sibelius Hindemith]

I certainly support better trained, better paid, and better supported police. And I don't feel that is at odds with the *goals* of the Black Lives Matter movement.

Huh? Isn't BLM pushing the "defund the police" movement as well as providing funding to bail rioters out of jail and probably providing them with equipment too? How naive can you be? Yeah, they want a well trained, well-funded police force that acts entirely on behalf of the Marxist goals of its founders.

[Sexymarinersfan]

So basically the police were called about a domestic dispute, and found out the guy had previous domestic violations along with warrants out. Police tried to arrest him and instead he reached into his vehicle which is STUPID!!...and the Police opened fire not knowing if he was going for a gun or not. Did I get all the facts right? If so, I see no problem here.

I'm about to be done with sports in general. They can pay their own salaries.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

I think it's time for a "defund stupid, narcissistic, entitled athletes" movement.