Who will win the presidential election

[BaseHitDerby]

There are wayyyyy more people in CA, so there will be wayyyyy more people pumping out babies than other states. You can't just give states a number of electoral college votes based on their population total.

OK... and Trump/future Republicans should do their jobs and convince the babies of the people born in California to vote for them.

I know it's crazy... but just 28 years ago Clinton won Louisiana, Arkansas, Kentucky, Missouri, Tennessee and West Virginia. It's not unthinkable for a candidate to sway people with great campaigning and ideas.

You only need to swing like 100K votes in those small states. Whereas in CA, you need to change 3M voters which would be like a MLB team being down by 30 runs.

[BaseHitDerby]

OK... and Trump/future Republicans should do their jobs and convince the babies of the people born in California to vote for them.

Most of the babies are already born into Democrat parents and the Big Tech/Hollywood presence there ensures CA will be blue for probably our lifetimes. That's a reason why the gap between blue/red votes has increased by so much the last 30 years. There's no point for a Republican to put effort in that state when he has less than a 1% chance there.

I know plenty of people my generation who vote different than their parents.

Your political beliefs should be your own... if you only vote a certain way because your parents do... I'd call that embarrassing.

It's up to the candidate to sway the voter... You can't tell me Reagan won 489 electoral votes in 1980 because people voted solely on family ideals. It's clear he presented a vision for the country the masses could get behind.

Schools/universities, MSM, Big Tech, Hollywood, and pro sports etc. all tell people to vote Democrat. Yet, you think it's possible to convince 3M CA voters to switch from blue to red.

[IStillLoveTheMs]

There are wayyyyy more people in CA, so there will be wayyyyy more people pumping out babies than other states. You can't just give states a number of electoral college votes based on their population total.

OK... and Trump/future Republicans should do their jobs and convince the babies of the people born in California to vote for them.

I know it's crazy... but just 28 years ago Clinton won Louisiana, Arkansas, Kentucky, Missouri, Tennessee and West Virginia. It's not unthinkable for a candidate to sway people with great campaigning and ideas.

You only need to swing like 100K votes in those small states. Whereas in CA, you need to change 3M voters which would be like a MLB team being down by 30 runs.

Welp... not Californian's fault that Trump can't persuade them to vote for him.

Trump's campaign hasn't even tried to extend an olive branch to the voter bases in places who dislike him.

His full strategy has been to sway the rural and old white person vote in his favor while simultaneously saying fuck you to everyone else. It's not going to make him popular, but it's going to give him small odds in winning the electoral college despite losing the popular vote.

If Trump presented me with ANY reason to vote for him that would be fun. But he stands for quite literally nothing I stand for... and that goes for 78 million Americans who are SO far away from voting for him that it's not even close.

[IStillLoveTheMs]

Most of the babies are already born into Democrat parents and the Big Tech/Hollywood presence there ensures CA will be blue for probably our lifetimes. That's a reason why the gap between blue/red votes has increased by so much the last 30 years. There's no point for a Republican to put effort in that state when he has less than a 1% chance there.

I know plenty of people my generation who vote different than their parents.

Your political beliefs should be your own... if you only vote a certain way because your parents do... I'd call that embarrassing.

It's up to the candidate to sway the voter... You can't tell me Reagan won 489 electoral votes in 1980 because people voted solely on family ideals. It's clear he presented a vision for the country the masses could get behind.

Schools/universities, MSM, Big Tech, Hollywood, and pro sports etc. all tell people to vote Democrat. Yet, you think it's possible to convince 3M CA voters to switch from blue to red.

Yes, if you give them a platform worth voting for... of course. But Trump isn't/hasn't even come close. He's not trying. In fact, he's basically put a huge middle finger up to people in California/major cities and it's his funeral.

[HawkBowler 2.0]

But explain to me why one states electoral vote is worth 2.42 times more than another?

In 1992, California had an electoral vote number of 54... just over 11 million people voted.

In 2020, California had an electoral vote number of 55... 16.8 million people voted.

That change alone should have resulted in an electoral vote number for Cali of 84.

Your ignorance is on display with this post. There's a finite number of electoral votes (538) equal to the number of people represented in Congress. Giving 30 more electoral votes to CA would take electoral votes from other states. Duh

California always provides the popular vote victory to Democrats. Take that state away and Biden is losing the popular vote right now to Trump. We are not the United States of California.

I'm not saying California should get 84 votes.

I obviously understand there's a balance.

But a voting jump of 6 million people should not result in just 1 additional electoral college vote when smaller states get to keep their standing despite a lack of growth.

There needs to be some sort of an adjustment or your disenfranchising millions of voters to favor very few.

The huge population growth in CA is due to illegal immigration. The Democrats want to recreate that population growth throughout the southern states. That's why they're competing in states like Georgia and Texas, which was unheard of 10 years ago.

One could make the argument that CA out of control illegal immigration disenfranchises other states don't promote this sort of lawlessness.

The electoral system is sound. It's a combination of the popular vote plus representatives that decide the presidency.

[BaseHitDerby]

OK... and Trump/future Republicans should do their jobs and convince the babies of the people born in California to vote for them.

I know it's crazy... but just 28 years ago Clinton won Louisiana, Arkansas, Kentucky, Missouri, Tennessee and West Virginia. It's not unthinkable for a candidate to sway people with great campaigning and ideas.

You only need to swing like 100K votes in those small states. Whereas in CA, you need to change 3M voters which would be like a MLB team being down by 30 runs.

Welp... not Californian's fault that Trump can't persuade them to vote for him.

Trump's campaign hasn't even tried to extend an olive branch to the voter bases in places who dislike him.

His full strategy has been to sway the rural and old white person vote in his favor while simultaneously saying fuck you to everyone else. It's not going to make him popular, but it's going to give him small odds in winning the electoral college despite losing the popular vote.

If Trump presented me with ANY reason to vote for him that would be fun. But he stands for quite literally nothing I stand for... and that goes for 78 million Americans who are SO far away from voting for him that it's not even close.

What has Biden done in 47 years as a Congressman? It's funny to see people think Biden is the Savior of this country. All he's done is get rich off of taxpayer dollars and China. Even if he was a Republican, there's no way I would vote for him. Trump hasn't started any war, brought troops home, brought peace to the Middle East, lowered unemployment rate, increased family median income, reformed criminal justice sysyem to help blacks get out of jail and give black colleges 10 years of funding. But, it's always Orange Man Bad.

[IStillLoveTheMs]

Your ignorance is on display with this post. There's a finite number of electoral votes (538) equal to the number of people represented in Congress. Giving 30 more electoral votes to CA would take electoral votes from other states. Duh

California always provides the popular vote victory to Democrats. Take that state away and Biden is losing the popular vote right now to Trump. We are not the United States of California.

I'm not saying California should get 84 votes.

I obviously understand there's a balance.

But a voting jump of 6 million people should not result in just 1 additional electoral college vote when smaller states get to keep their standing despite a lack of growth.

There needs to be some sort of an adjustment or your disenfranchising millions of voters to favor very few.

The huge population growth in CA is due to illegal immigration. The Democrats want to recreate that population growth throughout the southern states. That's why they're competing in states like Georgia and Texas, which was unheard of 10 years ago.

One could make that argument that CA out of control illegal immigration disenfranchises other states don't promote this sort of lawlessness.

The electoral system is sound. It's a combination of the popular vote plus representatives that decide the presidency.

Jesus...

[IStillLoveTheMs]

You only need to swing like 100K votes in those small states. Whereas in CA, you need to change 3M voters which would be like a MLB team being down by 30 runs.

Welp... not Californian's fault that Trump can't persuade them to vote for him.

Trump's campaign hasn't even tried to extend an olive branch to the voter bases in places who dislike him.

His full strategy has been to sway the rural and old white person vote in his favor while simultaneously saying fuck you to everyone else. It's not going to make him popular, but it's going to give him small odds in winning the electoral college despite losing the popular vote.

If Trump presented me with ANY reason to vote for him that would be fun. But he stands for quite literally nothing I stand for... and that goes for 78 million Americans who are SO far away from voting for him that it's not even close.

What has Biden done in 47 years as a Congressman? It's funny to see people think Biden is the Savior of this country. All he's done is get rich off of taxpayer dollars and China. Even if he was a Republican, there's no way I would vote for him. Trump hasn't started any war, brought troops home, brought peace to the Middle East, lowered unemployment rate, increased family median income, reformed criminal justice sysyem to help blacks get out of jail and give black colleges 10 years of funding. But, it's always Orange Man Bad.

I don't see Biden as a savior for this country.

I view him as a means back to a semblance of sanity who happens to push some policy ideas I agree with.

See all the things you list that Trump has done... I can tell you not a single Biden voter agrees with you on any of those narratives. There's massive caveats to the things you listed in our eyes.

[HawkBowler 2.0]

Biden is a grifter who never worked a real job in life. Instead, he sacrificed himself to public service... and made millions.

He's a racist. The media asks Trump whether he denounces white supremacy constantly but they never ask Joe, who has an actual history of working with white segregationists.

But it's not about Joe. It's about revolution. The new socialist agenda infecting the Democrats. They want totalitarian rule. Apparently you want them to have that. I don't understand that thinking.

[IStillLoveTheMs]

Biden is a grifter who never worked a real job in life. Instead, he sacrificed himself to public service... and made millions.

He's a racist. The media asks Trump whether he denounces white supremacy constantly but they never ask Joe, who has an actual history of working with white segregationists.

But it's not about Joe. It's about revolution. The new socialist agenda infecting the Democrats. They want totalitarian rule. Apparently you want them to have that. I don't understand that thinking.

And you're not going to win any of the 78 million voters over who went for Biden with that insane sentiment or rhetoric. Trump can push that narrative all he wants... but Dems aren't buying an ounce of it.

So keep saying that shit... it only helps my cause and further alienates the majority... socialism as a buzzword only scares old people...