Seattle, Washington Prediction Thread

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Re: Seattle, Washington Prediction Thread

Post by D-train » Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:56 pm

ddraig wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:19 am
D-train wrote:
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I've got a big icky also about this one and my Inner Homer won't let me say WFT 20-17.

So Seahawks 26-23
You guys and your non traditional scores............lol
What's so non traditional about three touchdowns plus two FG's vs. Three touchdowns plus a missed EP? Happens all the time!
You really suck at math. :lol: I am thankful for your students that you teach History instead because you are great at that. :)
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Re: Seattle, Washington Prediction Thread

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Re: Seattle, Washington Prediction Thread

Post by ddraig » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:32 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:56 pm
ddraig wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:19 am
D-train wrote:
Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:22 pm


You guys and your non traditional scores............lol
What's so non traditional about three touchdowns plus two FG's vs. Three touchdowns plus a missed EP? Happens all the time!
You really suck at math. :lol: I am thankful for your students that you teach History instead because you are great at that. :)
I was talking about my score. 27 for us and 20 for the "Whatevers". What the rest of you guys do is up to you!

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Re: Seattle, Washington Prediction Thread

Post by D-train » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:35 pm

ddraig wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:32 pm
D-train wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 12:56 pm
ddraig wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:19 am


What's so non traditional about three touchdowns plus two FG's vs. Three touchdowns plus a missed EP? Happens all the time!
You really suck at math. :lol: I am thankful for your students that you teach History instead because you are great at that. :)
I was talking about my score. 27 for us and 20 for the "Whatevers". What the rest of you guys do is up to you!
Oh sorry. Yes, your score is traditional. I thought you were referring to the 26-23 score you replied to.
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Re: Seattle, Washington Prediction Thread

Post by SeattleAddict » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:40 pm

I don't think 'traditional' scores are so common any more. I don't know if facts and actual numbers back that up, but since they moved the EP back, it seems pretty common for there to be one missed and/or a 2 pt conversion attempt.

I woke up thinking it was game day, and it's not, so now I'm depressed. Please somebody research this and let me know how right and brilliant I am for coming up with this theory.

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Re: Seattle, Washington Prediction Thread

Post by D-train » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:51 pm

SeattleAddict wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:40 pm
I don't think 'traditional' scores are so common any more. I don't know if facts and actual numbers back that up, but since they moved the EP back, it seems pretty common for there to be one missed and/or a 2 pt conversion attempt.

I woke up thinking it was game day, and it's not, so now I'm depressed. Please somebody research this and let me know how right and brilliant I am for coming up with this theory.
I just completed some pretty thorough research and I can confirm with 100% certainty that today is not game day. :)

I also looked at last weeks scores and 10 were traditional and 6 were not. I would guess this is about the split since the new rules came into play so if you pick a non traditional score your chances of winning are about half of what they would be vs. a traditional score.
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Re: Seattle, Washington Prediction Thread

Post by D-train » Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:54 pm

Just looked at our 13 games and 7 are traditional and 6 are not.
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Re: Seattle, Washington Prediction Thread

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:25 pm

SeattleAddict wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:40 pm
I don't think 'traditional' scores are so common any more. I don't know if facts and actual numbers back that up, but since they moved the EP back, it seems pretty common for there to be one missed and/or a 2 pt conversion attempt.

I woke up thinking it was game day, and it's not, so now I'm depressed. Please somebody research this and let me know how right and brilliant I am for coming up with this theory.
yeah, teams should be attempting two point conversions much more than they do, at least by this study. Its interesting the coach most averse to the idea is Bill Belichick...
The moral of the story is basically that, when a touchdown is scored, going for two should be the default stance. There are certainly exceptions — times where one point is far more than half as valuable as two points. Obviously if you’re down six at the very end of the game and score a TD on the last play to tie it, you kick the XP to win. If you’re up 10 and score a TD, you kick the XP to go up three scores, etc. But when two points approach or exceed twice the value of one point, which is the case the overwhelming majority of the time, the post-touchdown choice should be a no-brainer, keep the offense on the field.
https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2020/1/30/ ... l-dorktown

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Re: Seattle, Washington Prediction Thread

Post by D-train » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:29 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:25 pm
SeattleAddict wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 4:40 pm
I don't think 'traditional' scores are so common any more. I don't know if facts and actual numbers back that up, but since they moved the EP back, it seems pretty common for there to be one missed and/or a 2 pt conversion attempt.

I woke up thinking it was game day, and it's not, so now I'm depressed. Please somebody research this and let me know how right and brilliant I am for coming up with this theory.
yeah, teams should be attempting two point conversions much more than they do, at least by this study. Its interesting the coach most averse to the idea is Bill Belichick...
The moral of the story is basically that, when a touchdown is scored, going for two should be the default stance. There are certainly exceptions — times where one point is far more than half as valuable as two points. Obviously if you’re down six at the very end of the game and score a TD on the last play to tie it, you kick the XP to win. If you’re up 10 and score a TD, you kick the XP to go up three scores, etc. But when two points approach or exceed twice the value of one point, which is the case the overwhelming majority of the time, the post-touchdown choice should be a no-brainer, keep the offense on the field.
https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2020/1/30/ ... l-dorktown
Yeah, when you score two TDs and go for 2 twice they would both have to fail for it to be worth less than the two kicks...
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Re: Seattle, Washington Prediction Thread

Post by SeattleAddict » Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:40 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Dec 19, 2020 5:29 pm
Yeah, when you score two TDs and go for 2 twice they would both have to fail for it to be worth less than the two kicks...
have you SEEN the Seahawks on 3rd down this year? not sure we'd score on 25% of 2-point conversions, much less half.

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