I guess there is a game today game thread. 6/29/19

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Re: I guess there is a game today game thread. 6/29/19

Post by DavidGee24 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:59 am

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And even so, his OPS is .733 to Dee Gordon's .657

Get it?
A lot of that .733 came in those first ten games, he's got to be under .600 since then and his defense is so bad it negates his offense, plus he seems like he's a pretty slow baserunner.. But again, with these two we're pretty much picking our poison.

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Post by Juliooooo » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:07 am

bpj wrote:
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Juliooooo wrote:
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His average was fine until they started playing him every other day or less
His average has been falling since game 10. Take out those 10 games, and his average is .189...

But don't let facts get in your way.
And even so, his OPS is .733 to Dee Gordon's .657

Get it?
man are you dense. His OPS was 1.323 after 10 games and has taken a catastrophic dive to .733. It dropped to .802 in the first month after his hot start, playing regularly.

Get it?
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Re: I guess there is a game today game thread. 6/29/19

Post by bpj » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:24 am

Juliooooo wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 1:54 am
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On the fangraphs 2B leaderboards, Dee Gordon's OPS ranks him 34th among 2B with 150PA or more.

Beckham would be 22nd.

And, imo, he would hit much better playing regularly, like most players.
Too bad your opinion doesn't match reality. He got off to a hot start, then stunk it up after that, while playing regularly. Yeah, Dee Gordon may not be all world, but Beckham stinks too and his defense is atrocious (although Gordon has struggled tonight).

But OPS is the only stat that means anything at all, so thats all we have to look at :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Well it's about as good of an all inclusive offensive stat as there is. If Dee was still a good base stealer he may still have value.

John's thinking he will get more in trade than Encarnacion is an absolute laugher.

For the price, Beckham is the best 2B we have.

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Re: I guess there is a game today game thread. 6/29/19

Post by Juliooooo » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:30 am

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Well it's about as good of an all inclusive offensive stat as there is. If Dee was still a good base stealer he may still have value.

John's thinking he will get more in trade than Encarnacion is an absolute laugher.

For the price, Beckham is the best 2B we have.
I've never been a big Dee Gordon fan, but acting like Beckham is better is laughable. With our pitching staff though, I'll take the better defense over the marginally better hitter.

And who cares about price, they are both on the team and getting paid regardless of who is playing. I hope neither are on the team next year.
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Post by Petert » Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:56 am

We’re watching the Hillsboro Hops tonight. There’s a Dominican kid throwing 97 for them. Pure hair. Wears his hat askew like Rodney. :D :shock:

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Post by DavidGee24 » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:01 am

And there's a VogelBomb to tie it up! Too bad they don't go by runs you actually earned, it would be 5-0. Tell you what, if the Mariners losr by four less, go out on the field and do the victory line anyway. Seriously, DO IT.

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Post by Juliooooo » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:07 am

I don't think Gurriel touched the base
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Re: I guess there is a game today game thread. 6/29/19

Post by bpj » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:08 am

Juliooooo wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:30 am
bpj wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:24 am

Well it's about as good of an all inclusive offensive stat as there is. If Dee was still a good base stealer he may still have value.

John's thinking he will get more in trade than Encarnacion is an absolute laugher.

For the price, Beckham is the best 2B we have.
I've never been a big Dee Gordon fan, but acting like Beckham is better is laughable. With our pitching staff though, I'll take the better defense over the marginally better hitter.

And who cares about price, they are both on the team and getting paid regardless of who is playing. I hope neither are on the team next year.
That's the difference, at, what, $1.5Million, Beckham is a steal. And he's here again next season as an arb player unless he gets DFA'd.

I hope Beckham is here with Long at UTIL and Gordon playing elsewhere.

Or, get a new 2B if you have one better than Beckham. Otherwise he is our best 2020 option.

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Post by Petert » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:11 am

Juliooooo wrote:
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I don't think Gurriel touched the base
Fortunately, the guys in NY agreed.

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Re: I guess there is a game today game thread. 6/29/19

Post by Juliooooo » Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:16 am

bpj wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 3:08 am
Juliooooo wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:30 am
bpj wrote:
Sun Jun 30, 2019 2:24 am

Well it's about as good of an all inclusive offensive stat as there is. If Dee was still a good base stealer he may still have value.

John's thinking he will get more in trade than Encarnacion is an absolute laugher.

For the price, Beckham is the best 2B we have.
I've never been a big Dee Gordon fan, but acting like Beckham is better is laughable. With our pitching staff though, I'll take the better defense over the marginally better hitter.

And who cares about price, they are both on the team and getting paid regardless of who is playing. I hope neither are on the team next year.
That's the difference, at, what, $1.5Million, Beckham is a steal. And he's here again next season as an arb player unless he gets DFA'd.

I hope Beckham is here with Long at UTIL and Gordon playing elsewhere.

Or, get a new 2B if you have one better than Beckham. Otherwise he is our best 2020 option.
I don't think Beckham is a steal at 1.5 million. I'd rather have Long play 2B every day next year to learn than keep Beckham around. Let Walton/Mariscal/Moore/Lopes/Negron etc... get a shot at utility. Long should be 2B every day imo.
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