Grubb didn't put anything in motion

[Donn Beach]

I don't know why he didn't use motion more either, and nobody is arguing that the Oline didn't have issues, but does that let Grubb off the hook for not trying to compensate for the line? He was forced to run shotgun so often because of his Oline? I don't see that being supported

Rob Stanton

When you bring up the struggling run game, most people point to the O-line — which is fair enough. It was bad again against Arizona. It’s been bad all year. It needs major work.

Every single lineman received a bad run-blocking grade per PFF:

Olu Oluwatimi — 58.8
Christian Haynes — 58.2
Abe Lucas — 50.3
Charles Cross — 49.8
Laken Tomlinson — 40.1

However, this isn’t a problem exclusive to the Seahawks. A lot of teams have issues blocking. A lot of those teams still find ways to run the ball a lot more effectively than the Seahawks.

This tweet from Brock Huard was scathing in the review of Ryan Grubb’s inability to work out solutions to be able to find any semblance of running effectiveness — especially against a team in Arizona giving up 121.8 rushing yards per game (the Seahawks managed just 65 yards):

BrockHuard

For a former OL Coach I’ve been really surprised at Ryan Grubb’s inability to adjust & call plays that protect that group. No boots, no movement of the pocket, minimal play action, very little creativity in the run game.

Make the OL job’s easier. That’s duty 1 of an NFL OC
5:59 AM · Nov 25, 2024

When I’ve discussed Grubb recently there’s been a lot of sympathetic replies in the direction of Seattle’s OC. Again, the O-line is a huge problem. We can all see that. Yet as Huard notes above, why are they so incapable of working around this to produce any kind of ground success?

[Michael K.]

Every single lineman received a bad run-blocking grade per PFF:

Olu Oluwatimi — 58.8
Christian Haynes — 58.2
Abe Lucas — 50.3
Charles Cross — 49.8
Laken Tomlinson — 40.1

Only someone in Seattle sees that and says "Fucking OC sucks". Jesus H. Christ. I've been drug into this yet again, and I'm out.

Grubb wasn't amazing, but the O Line has been DOGSHIT the entirety of Schneider's time here. And he gets yet another pass. The dude has ZERO clue how to build an O Line, but he is real good at scapegoating everyone else for it. I am sure the above numbers would have all been fantastic if we'd just called a few more boot legs. My fucking God.

I hope you are right. I hope that all it took was our sixth or seventh OC to cure a problem that has been around for over a decade.

[Donn Beach]

With as shitty an Oline as they have it wasn't a smart move hiring a college coach as OC, that's always been the issue with me, and that's on JS. Grubb is now happily back at college. Until they can JS it's who we got to work with. Kubiak makes more sense to me

[Donn Beach]

Or given Grubb a veteran Oline coach to help. MM has that guy, Leslie Frazier. Frazier was hired to help MM get oriented to being a NFL HC. What did they do for Grubb, another guy from college. And during the season, who gets the help. MM gets Jones to fix his linebacker issues, what does Grubb get. If you go with Grubb you have to be willing to develop him. That a college oc without any real support or an Oline was going to go to the NFL, kick ass and take names? I don't think it's about blaming Grubb, it didn't make sense.

And in terms of JS, I've pointed out, he's really rolled the dice bringing in Krupp and Darnold. They won 10 games last season. But if you think about it, that last win was a gimme they barely handled. That's a high bar to live up to. This thing really has the makings of a disappointing season in some respects. The division is going to be tough, if they only manage say eight wins is JS's job in jeopardy? I think it would be.
You said you're not interested in what Pete does, I think it could be interesting. What if him and Geno win more games than the Seahawks, how would that make JS look. I can't see that happening, not with what they are up against in that division

[Donn Beach]

So I checked, I'm surprised. The 4 win Raiders and the 10 win Seahawks are even this season, both at 7.5 over under. So Vegas thinks Pete turns the Raiders around and the Seahawks regress. If that happens does the JS seat get warm?

[trharder]

So I checked, I'm surprised. The 4 win Raiders and the 10 win Seahawks are even this season, both at 7.5 over under. So Vegas thinks Pete turns the Raiders around and the Seahawks regress. If that happens does the JS seat get warm?

It better.

[Donn Beach]

another shot at Grubb

The Seattle Seahawks struggled to protect their starting quarterback last season. Starter Geno Smith was sacked on 54 occasions. That was tied for third-most in the league, with only the Chicago Bears (68) and Cleveland Browns (66) allowing more sacks. The Houston Texans matched the Seahawks at third-worst (54).

Seattle's struggles to protect Smith would seemingly indicate the offensive line required extra help on dropback attempts. It was up to offensive coordinator Ryan Grubb to create those scenarios. Grubb should've technically been leaving extra blockers at the line of scrimmage (such as a blocking tight end?) on Smith's passing attempts.

That did not happen. Tru Media Sports recently released each team's percentage of passing plays in 2024 that were five-man protections, meaning no extra blockers. The Seahawks confusingly placed ninth, with 74.18% of their passing plays occurring with five-man empty protections. No wonder Smith was under constant duress.

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